FWIW I don't think it was a smart decision at all but he went into it thinking he could compete for championships
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FWIW I don't think it was a smart decision at all but he went into it thinking he could compete for championships
Some people need reminded what he did for ISU basketball and how he left the program in a good place for Prohm which Prohm looks to be continuing from the look of this year.
Starting with the 2001-2002 season until Fred Hoiberg was hired, ISU was a combined 143-140 overall and 49-95 in conference. They had only 1 NCAA tournament appearance during that time and only one year with a conference record above .500.
Since Hoiberg came to Iowa State. 181-98 in the regular season. 75-67 in conference. 6 NCAA tournament appearances. 2 Sweet Sixteens. 3 Big 12 conference tournament champions.
Starting with the 2001-2002 season until Fred Hoiberg was hired, ISU was a combined 143-140 overall and 49-95 in conference. They had only 1 NCAA tournament appearance during that time and only one year with a conference record above .500.
Since Hoiberg came to Iowa State. 181-98 in the regular season. 75-67 in conference. 6 NCAA tournament appearances. 2 Sweet Sixteens. 3 Big 12 conference tournament champions.
There's two time of dumb people. The ones that just don't know any better or the ones that are so dumb they think a Sweet 16 in CBB is "underwhelming"
And a sweet 16 that could have been an elite 8 or better if Georges doesn't get called for a terrible foul late in the game against Virginia.
This is just not true. There are plenty of coaches that could have screwed that up. Do I think Prohm was perfect in this first couple years? No. But he was pretty good.
Down 1, fire up a 25' fall away 3-pointer. I probalby would've had Lavine checked for a learning disability after the game.
I think Simmons & Russillo were making fun of Lavine for that one earlier this week.
That was 2016. Steve has won 3 NCAA Tournament games in 3 years.
Fred won 4 in 4 years.
Fred won 2 Big 12 Tourney Titles
Steve has won 1 Big 12 Tourney Titles.
Brilliant. So - if our coach, who won a conference tourney and 2nd Round of NCAA, wouldn't have done that we wouldn't have been has happy with him? That is some pretty heady stuff.
If Fred hadn't made NCAAs or won Big XII tourney, he would of been fired.
Was the talent we had last year more a result of Prohm recruiting or Hoiberg recruiting (or not recruiting).
Prohm has some boxes to check yet but at same points in their careers, CSP is at least as good of college Bball coach as CFH. If the order was reversed, it probably wouldn't have worked. CFH did something unique to restoke the fires of ISU MBB. I think his timing was impeccable but it wasn't meant to be a long term thing on several levels.
You can't be serious, we were never in that game at all. Go look at the play by play, we had to have trailed by double digits 35 minutes that game. We were completely overmatched.
Last years team was a combination of bad recruiting by both Hoiberg and Prohm.
You guys seem to be missing the point. What Prohm did was fine and dandy in 16 and 17, but those were teams with alot of talent, especially the 2016 Niang team. Had he not gotten those teams to the tourney it would have been a horrible coaching job.
For the record, Im all on the Prohm train this year, I like the makeup of this roster and you can already see the talent is finally there to get back to the level Hoiberg had us at.
No doubt. Upsets happen. But to act like prohm did nothing in years 1-2 is silly.
Why did I know this would degenerate into another Hoiberg versus Prohm war of attrition. I can see it last year when the team was bad and we had very little to look forward to, but come on, we are about to play tonight and have a good team again!
