This logic is exactly what I mean by casual fans, and by that logic I've stated multiple times I completely see why the casual ISU fan thinks they'll win big.
Hey Cyclone fans, Raider here (sorry for the long post)
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This logic is exactly what I mean by casual fans, and by that logic I've stated multiple times I completely see why the casual ISU fan thinks they'll win big.
ttuadvisor... I would suggest giving up. There is no way that we can prove that our team is superior to the past two versions until we go all 2006 on them again. Until then, we can agree to disagree.
I think you need to go back and do your homework on the mind of ISU fans. I think most fans are expecting this to be a close game based on the way our offense and defense plays. I don't think anyone is expecting a game like last year. The reason that most think ISU will win is because ISU it is at home. Yeah we have had Tech's number the last 2 years, but that doesn't really play into my expectation for a win this year. I could honestly see TT win this game and the only thing that would really surprise me is if ISU has no TOs and TT wins by 30.
I will give you that Tech has looked impressive in their wins but they have played cupcakes while ISU has been challenged in 2 of 3 of its games. If the game is close will Tech be able to handle the pressure or will they crack? ISU has come from behind and been able to hold off a team driving in the 4th quarter. Has TT really been exposed of their weaknesses by their opponents? Everyone here knows that ISU has had problems with turnovers and sometimes falls asleep on offense, but what do we really know about TT?
We are Iowa State, we simply do not expect wins.
Fail.
Your post didn't say that you had the worst rushing defense, it said worst defense and Kansas had a far worse overall defense. One partial stat does not encompass the whole defense. Total yards and total scoring are far more accurate thermometers of a defense than just rushing defense. A team could be last in rushing defense and first in passing defense and middle of the pack in scoring defense - would that make them still the worst defense in the land?
Well, at least you're basing your football ratings on one season. That usually makes for excellent analysis.
Let it go, man.
Until you post something along the line of, "You cyclones have a far superior program to ours in every sense. We should fall upon our knees and thank the maker that we are allowed to play upon the hallowed ground that is Jack Trice Stadium. We are not worthy!"... you are going to get nothing but grief from these guys. Let it go!
Well, at least you're basing your football ratings on one season. That usually makes for excellent analysis.
read what Hawkeye11en1 said in sig.
This analysis really doesn't tell you anything if it doesn't look at how much teams were under/over the preseason media predictions. They say Tech was under picked ten years to 8 to K-State and ISU. But by how much? If you are picked 4th and finish 3rd that is a lot different than being picked 10th and finishing 3rd. Even the limited analysis shows that Tech is the only school that has never finished more than three places off of the preseason rankings.
A much better analysis would be took look at the average difference between pre-season expectations and final standing.
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Yeah, I'm about there. All you can really do is just provide the facts and allow people to draw their own conclusions. Some people only want to see it one way, and that's fine, it's their board. Just hope they're hospitable and willing to eat some crow if Tech fans turn out to be spot on next Saturday.
Well, at least you're basing your football ratings on one season. That usually makes for excellent analysis.
From what i have seen so far, most raider fans are making their analysis from 3 cupcake games vs. teams i have never heard of. I bet we could score a bunch on Southern Georgia Technical Institute and Seminary School's intrimural flag football runner ups also.
I don't think anybody but the most stubborn are assuming a victory/blowout based on last year. We just remain skeptical of this massive improvement that so many TTU fans seem to think makes them the clear favorite in this game. All you can point to is a new DC, routs over cupcakes, and recruiting rankings. Those three things add up to very little real evidence that Tech has improved that much more than ISU from 2011. The highest ranked WR I can remember coming to ISU was one of the biggest annual disappointments on the team every year he was here. Okie State layed 84 points on a team and then lost to Arizona. Your new DC hasn't faced an offense worth a damn to prove he's actually made that much of a difference yet. That's all we're saying.
Memo to FutureDoc: Really hope you do not have to repeat the Nebraska crow, "without those eight turnovers, we would have killed you."
whatever guys, tech obviously improved a whole bunch this year, and we have obviously gotten way way worse.
