Harrison Barnes Poll
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Your second option is true regardless. mcD will go or stay in the next few years based off his ability to win games not recruit one player.
Iowa State Basketball will move on. I used to believe that Harrison was a must get recruit for GMAC but that was when he was only a top 100 or 150 player. You have to get that kind of talent in your backyard, but top 10 or 5 talent is different. HB is probably the #1 recruit in his class when you combine his talent with his grades. HB has every opportunity in the world right now. Getting him to stay is gonna be damn near impossible. I will not hold it against GMAC if HB goes somewhere else.
I really don't expect Harrison to stick around, honestly. It's just not a great fit for him. ISU, in this case, is sort of like the high school girlfriend that you break up with when you go off to college.
You really can't hold a coach responsible when the program he is running and the future plans of a prospective recruit don't match up.
It'd be great to have him, but if he doesn't REALLY want to be at ISU, I hope he goes elsewhere. I'd much rather he was going down a road of his own choosing than sticking around as a favor to a coach, family member, or member of the community, or solely of some feeling of loyalty or duty.
At any rate, I think McD needs to start showing some progress, regardless of his recruiting classes. He's starting to get his guys in his program and the transition period, and all the excuses that come with it, is nearing an end. He's got 2, maybe 3 years to get ISU back into line with reasonable fan expectations before you have to look at moving on, IMO.
Firing him just for the decision of an 18 year old kid to not live in the shadow of his hometown for college would be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard of in my life, especially when it seems he's doing all the right things to keep him here.
You really can't hold a coach responsible when the program he is running and the future plans of a prospective recruit don't match up.
It'd be great to have him, but if he doesn't REALLY want to be at ISU, I hope he goes elsewhere. I'd much rather he was going down a road of his own choosing than sticking around as a favor to a coach, family member, or member of the community, or solely of some feeling of loyalty or duty.
At any rate, I think McD needs to start showing some progress, regardless of his recruiting classes. He's starting to get his guys in his program and the transition period, and all the excuses that come with it, is nearing an end. He's got 2, maybe 3 years to get ISU back into line with reasonable fan expectations before you have to look at moving on, IMO.
Firing him just for the decision of an 18 year old kid to not live in the shadow of his hometown for college would be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard of in my life, especially when it seems he's doing all the right things to keep him here.
One of the worst statements I have seen posted on these boards! How do you or anyone else know what kind of fit ISU is with Barnes. For all you know it is a great fit and exactly what he wants. For you to say that is ridiculous
Geeeeeeez...and Iowa State is not a "great fit" why? How do we know he doesn't really want to be here? How do we know he's not really in fact "90% sure" about ISU and is just waiting a while to get to 100%?
I dunno, I would assume Barnes has grown up a big Cyclone fan. Some of his earliest memories of sports are probably Fizer and Tinsely and the top 5 rankings, etc. If McDermott fails to land a kid in his backyard, who grew up cheering for his team, my slipping opinion of his ability to win here will have fallen off the cliff...
We are talking about a guy that is going to be one of THE top recruits in his class when it is all said and done. Some of the top programs in the country are offering him. I would LOVE to see him stay and help ISU but if the kid signs with a Duke, North Carolina, Kansas, Texas, Florida, Kentucky, etc. can you really blame Mac or Harrison? No, those schools he'll be in the national spotlight and quite possibly give a boost to his NBA draft stock some day because of it.
Even if we get Barnes, if Greg does not win he's out. Win with or without Barnes - he stays. Simple.
Not getting one recruit should not have an impact on a coach's status.
Not getting one recruit should not have an impact on a coach's status.
Michael Beasley, Bill Walker, and now Wally Judge (all 5 stars) have all committed to Kansas St which was a much worse program than Iowa State.
UAB has a committment from the number 6 player in the 2009 class. UAB!!
Don't tell me we can't get a kid in our own backyard, with all the advantages we have, b/c he is getting offered by some big time schools. I hate this attitude.
UAB has a committment from the number 6 player in the 2009 class. UAB!!
Don't tell me we can't get a kid in our own backyard, with all the advantages we have, b/c he is getting offered by some big time schools. I hate this attitude.
I agree with this completely. Even as a huge ISU fan, if I was in his position and could play basketball anywhere I wanted, I would certainly have to think about it. The lure of the national spotlight, big games on TV, plenty of time on ESPN, that would be really hard to ignore. Plus a lot of 18 year old kids are ready to get away from home a bit. Hard to do that when you are still in the same town.
I would love to have him hear, but I'm not going to fault Mac if we don't get him. We just aren't at the point as a program where we belong on the radar of top 10 recruits. If the kid isn't from Ames, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
HB appears to be a lock for McDonald's All American. TV Spotlight there. If you are good enough, the camera's will find you. We will be a top 25 team with him. Thus more games on ESPN.
People we won't suck if we have Harrison. I don't know why people don't get this. I keep hearing these comments about how why would he chose us if he could play for Kentucky, Kansas, etc. Well if he chooses us, than we are up there w/ those teams. We would have 2 5 star players on our team and a four star. Fill that in w/ a lot of solid role players and we will be tough
i think michael beasley was committed to UAB for a short time before he committed to kansas state
