Haliburton Does It Again

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Agree.

I love Tyrese and his upbeat personality. He is such a great a great point guard to build a franchise around. I know he loves the trash talking part of the game and all, but I don't get why he felt the need to bust out the choke sign.

That said, I'm a huge Tyrese fan and he's the reason I've become an NBA fan again.
As much as it was poked at the Knicks it was also a shout out to his mentor, Reggie MIller.

 
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Because New York choked on their chicken. Big time.
Few realize how much. It was a historic choke. There was a graphic that showed the record of teams down by as many as the Pacers were at the 1 minute mark since 1998. Teams were 0-1,414. They were also down by 14 at the 2:50 mark. Teams were 0-fer in those circumstances as well (0-970). It was an unprecedented choke.

Nesmith was incredible down the stretch.
 
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Seriously…. is there a more clutch player in the entire NBA right now than Tyrese?

Not in my mind there isn’t. Nobody else I’d rather the ball be than in his hands to win a game.
 
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Seriously…. is there a more clutch player in the entire NBA right now than Tyrese?

Not in my mind there isn’t. Nobody else I’d rather the ball be than in his hands to win a game.
Haliburton is now 12 of 14 on shots to tie or take the lead in the last 2 minutes of games this season. That's 86%!

The league average on these shots is 37.9%.
 
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Few realize how much. It was a historic choke. There was a graphic that showed the record of teams down by as many as the Pacers were at the 1 minute mark since 1998. Teams were 0-1,414. They were also down by 14 at the 2:50 mark. Teams were 0-fer in those circumstances as well (0-970). It was an unprecedented choke.

Nesmith was incredible down the stretch.

You can debate which "comeback" is more impressive, it's impossible to pick.

To me it was down 8 with 35 seconds left in regulation.

The numbers on this one are even more astronomical than the Cavs and Bucks games.
 

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You can debate which "comeback" is more impressive, it's impossible to pick.

To me it was down 8 with 35 seconds left in regulation.

The numbers on this one are even more astronomical than the Cavs and Bucks games.
Yeah, I think you are right. I think the 0-1,414 was down 8 with 35 seconds left. Regardless, it was historic no matter how you slice it.
 

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Haliburton is now 12 of 14 on shots to tie or take the lead in the last 2 minutes of games this season. That's 86%!

The league average on these shots is 37.9%.
Was one of those misses last night on the missed 3 that resulted in the tip-dunk by Toppin?
 

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Few realize how much. It was a historic choke. There was a graphic that showed the record of teams down by as many as the Pacers were at the 1 minute mark since 1998. Teams were 0-1,414. They were also down by 14 at the 2:50 mark. Teams were 0-fer in those circumstances as well (0-970). It was an unprecedented choke.

Nesmith was incredible down the stretch.

This is just my opinion, but I'm getting tired of all the choking talk, especially from the pundits who everyone is supposed to think are experts.

The Pacers have had unbelievable come from behind wins against three different opponents in the last couple of weeks. The type of wins that are incredibly rare.

What are the odds that three of the best teams in the NBA all had epic collapses? Pretty astronomical. What's the common denominator in these three miracle wins? The Pacers.

The pundits are ignoring the real reason for how the Pacers have defied all the odds in these games - the Pacers pace of play and their overall depth. They press the entire game on defense, they push like crazy the entire game on offense, and they don't let up even if they're down 14 with less than 2 minutes to go. Other NBA teams are not used to this style of play.

Why do teams miss crucial free throws late in the game? Mental and physical fatigue. Why do teams have crucial turnovers late in game? Mental and physical fatigue.

The Pacers have a style of play that the rest of the NBA must adapt to, and that's going to take some time. In the meantime, I think they gonna win the title this year.
 
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I've been a Pacers fan since I moved to Indiana after college in 1991. The Pacers leadership was brilliant when they traded for Tyrese. They saw the potential in Tyrese. From day one they marketed him as the face of the franchise. They changed everything for him. Carlisle was a championship coach that was known to micro manage his teams. He called plays throughout the game and controlled most possessions. To his credit, he said on day one that he was turning the offense over to Tyrese and that they would play up tempo and work on concepts not plays. They then went out and traded for or drafted guys that fit well around Tyrese. Young guys that will thrive getting up and down the court and are team first guys. The Pacers and their development has been very fun to watch. Some may say Tyrese is not a super star in the league, but I would argue that only a super star could totally change the direction of a franchise like he has.
 

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I've been a Pacers fan since I moved to Indiana after college in 1991. The Pacers leadership was brilliant when they traded for Tyrese. They saw the potential in Tyrese. From day one they marketed him as the face of the franchise. They changed everything for him. Carlisle was a championship coach that was known to micro manage his teams. He called plays throughout the game and controlled most possessions. To his credit, he said on day one that he was turning the offense over to Tyrese and that they would play up tempo and work on concepts not plays. They then went out and traded for or drafted guys that fit well around Tyrese. Young guys that will thrive getting up and down the court and are team first guys. The Pacers and their development has been very fun to watch. Some may say Tyrese is not a super star in the league, but I would argue that only a super star could totally change the direction of a franchise like he has.

Sabonis is a very good player and a really a low risk guy to sign, but I agree if you were a GM in a small market you value the guy who might have the big play upside, a guy who could run the best offense in the league even if he isn't the #1 player in the league.

The more I think about it Tyrese's closest comp is probably Nash, they have different strengths and weaknesses but for both of them it's the relentless offense they run and the decisions they make, the awareness at all times. In my opinion that Suns team was a horrific disciplinary decision from having a title too, they were championship level.
 
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