Gladiator II trailer
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Him using his typical New York accent when the rest of the characters are apparently British was an odd choice.
As amazing as Fury Road is it actually wasn't a huge box office success so not surprising Furiosa hasn't done well.
Gladiator on the other hand was a monster at the box office and won best pic. This will make a ton of money.
hot take: Matchstick Men is top tier Ridley Scott that not many people have seen. ******* love it.
Zimmer might be the biggest name in Hollywood right now. And I mean that over any director, writer, or actor/actress. He's seriously in competition with figures like John Williams, Ennio Morricone, and Max Steiner for the title of the greatest film composer of all-time (if he isn't already there now).
He's chosen to use this position not for money or fame but for art and picking projects that are interesting to him. He's like Daniel Day-Lewis -- he's held in such high regard that he can do whatever he wants, and as a result he only works with good directors on good screenplays. His alliance with Christopher Nolan was a huge factor in the latter's success, and Tenet suffered for a lack of Zimmer (though Göransson got better at doing a Zimmer impression for Oppenheimer). Villeneuve luring Zimmer away from Team Nolan for Dune and its sequels because Zimmer is such a fan of the original novels was a coup and greatly enhanced those films.
Zimmer going from Ridley/Tony Scott to Nolan to Villeneuve coincides strongly with those directors entering into the most productive and acclaimed periods of their careers (with some exceptions).
Sure is. I just don't think it's on a tier with Blade Runner (which is a strong contender for the greatest film ever made) and Gladiator (which is still 100% amazing and always will be forever).
Again, I don't think films like this one are bad. It's just stiff competition when the top of the heap for Ridley Scott is stuff like Blade Runner and Gladiator. Few directors make even one film that good.
That Greeks and Romans speak with a British accent (even if obviously they were Mediterranean and from Greece/Italy though who knows what their accents sounded like speaking ancient languages 2,000+ years ago even compared to modern Italian or Spanish in the case of the Romans) is just a trope that Hollywood adopted with mass importation of British actors for sword-and-sandals epics like...
Ben-Hur
Spartacus
The Ten Commandments (okay not Rome or Greece but in the same style)
The Fall of the Roman Empire
Jason and the Argonauts
etc.
It's just something that's been carried forward. I don't think Denzel sounding like Denzel is going to be a problem if it is a good character -- and if it is, an actor like Denzel is going to bring it out.
The Death of Stalin let the actors speak with their natural accents rather than doing a goofy and fake Russian accent while speaking English. Hearing Steve Buscemi do Nikita Khrushchev with a Brooklyn accent and Jason Isaacs do Marshal Zhukov with a Yorkshire accent was pretty fun, I have to admit. However, it totally worked based on the quality of the performances and the writing underlying the characters.
Might want to go check the box office on Inside Out 2. It's already one of the top 25 grossing movies of all time. By the way, almost the entire top 25 is a sequel or part of a franchise like the Marvel movies.
Love that Connie Nielsen is back to bring some continuity to the films.
It was 100% in there just because it says "blood stains the colosseum doors."
I'd like to think it won't be in the actual movie, although I didn't hate its usage in the trailer.
I wonder how they're going to set up the politics given the ending of Gladiator.
The main focus is on Maximus having his revenge on Commodus, which he has, but there's some vague notion of Maximus "giving Rome back to the people" through Senator Derek Jacobi.
Marcus Aurelius said there once was a dream that was Rome. And Maximus died to bring it back.
What exactly that means is tricky. Even at its best, the Roman Republic wasn't anything like what we would recognize as a modern democracy with enumerated rights, universal suffrage, competitive elections for public office, separation of church and state, civil liberties, and other basic political rights. I guess the Republic did lack a monarch, but even modern constitutional democracies can function with one around.
But there was some notion of "this madness stops with Commodus and the adults in the Senate, who are more concerned with upkeeping the sanitation system than cults of divinity will be in charge."
It looks like we're going to be in the middle of the Severan Dynasty in the sequel.
So... we're back where we started. Rome is being led by crazy military dictators (even if some of them, like Marcus Aurelius, were good at their job and decent but they are increasingly a distant memory).
Maybe that undermines the ending of the original. Or maybe it doesn't and seeing Commodus die was the whole point. And maybe it puts a dark, cynical layer on the second that this madness is incurable. A good director and a good screenplay can definitely do some weighty things with such themes.
The main focus is on Maximus having his revenge on Commodus, which he has, but there's some vague notion of Maximus "giving Rome back to the people" through Senator Derek Jacobi.
Marcus Aurelius said there once was a dream that was Rome. And Maximus died to bring it back.
What exactly that means is tricky. Even at its best, the Roman Republic wasn't anything like what we would recognize as a modern democracy with enumerated rights, universal suffrage, competitive elections for public office, separation of church and state, civil liberties, and other basic political rights. I guess the Republic did lack a monarch, but even modern constitutional democracies can function with one around.
But there was some notion of "this madness stops with Commodus and the adults in the Senate, who are more concerned with upkeeping the sanitation system than cults of divinity will be in charge."
It looks like we're going to be in the middle of the Severan Dynasty in the sequel.
So... we're back where we started. Rome is being led by crazy military dictators (even if some of them, like Marcus Aurelius, were good at their job and decent but they are increasingly a distant memory).
Maybe that undermines the ending of the original. Or maybe it doesn't and seeing Commodus die was the whole point. And maybe it puts a dark, cynical layer on the second that this madness is incurable. A good director and a good screenplay can definitely do some weighty things with such themes.
I freeking LOVE Kung Fu Panda and had no idea that was Zimmer until I just looked at his filmography. The Dune movies are masterpieces IMO. Also wtf movies I didn't know he did: The Rock, Rango, Black Hawk Down. Honestly his list is stifling.
He has a widely known rep.
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