Four games with McKay, Four games...

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People talked about Matt Thomas and his cold streak. Georges is like 0-12 from 3 in just the last two games

0-10 in his last 3, 2-15 in his last 5.

Curiously he had a 0-15 stretch over three games last year from Jan 7th through Jan 13th. He followed it up by going 14-27 in his next 4 games.
 
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Niang's game is sucking because McKay is on the floor? Please.... McKay doesn't make Georges miss all five threes he takes in a game.

Besides, Georges has plenty of experience playing beside a taller, shot-blocking post that isn't an outside threat. The announcers remind us every game.

It's not the missed shots, Niang has 9 turnovers in the last two games. The help defender gets to a driving Georges quicker when coming off McKay than a 3 pt shooter. The problem is certainly fixable and there's ways to make the other team pay, but it's clear the timing and rhythm on offense are a little off right now.
 

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It's not the missed shots, Niang has 9 turnovers in the last two games. The help defender gets to a driving Georges quicker when coming off McKay than a 3 pt shooter. The problem is certainly fixable and there's ways to make the other team pay, but it's clear the timing and rhythm on offense are a little off right now.

Yep, and you're not going to be able to solve that by having McKay move out to the perimeter, so he's going to have to make them pay by cutting to the open areas vacated by the help defender. There's definitely a feeling out process going on now, it takes time to get used to playing with someone new. A lot of us were probably overly optimistic that we could add a 25+ min a night guy during the middle of the season and not feel any growing pains. He does change the offense significantly, but he also significantly changes the defense for the better and being able to really lock down on that end makes it a lot easier to win when you have off nights on the other end.
 

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I don't know if he has necessarily hurt our spacing, but its a bigger shift than people think IMO. Niang has really NEVER played the 4 at ISU. Yes, its a postion-less offense per se but this is a big shift in lane running on breaks and isolation plays. Last year when Niang is the "5" and he is isolated, there really wasn't much help defense to be had or else there was a wide open shooter. Teams don't have to honor an outside McKay shot. To me, this seems like something Fred is smart enough to get corrected, it just might take some time.

Niang is struggling when McKay is on the bench also, its just hard for us to watch because his first 2 1/2 years we never really seen him a cold streak. He will bounce out of it.
 

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0-10 in his last 3, 2-15 in his last 5.

Curiously he had a 0-15 stretch over three games last year from Jan 7th through Jan 13th. He followed it up by going 14-27 in his next 4 games.

I believe those were the 3 games we lost last year as well...which is a nice change if we can now win those games due to defense and more options on the floor. Georges is too big of a competitor to let this stop him. He'll probably just be living in the gym for the next 3 days until he sorts it out.
 

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With mckay other teams are now putting a quicker big on Niang wheras before their big had to guard GN and he would go right by them. GN seems to be forcing his game a bit instead of going with the flow. CFH will get it corrected.
 

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I counted at least 5 times last night where McKay didn't get a blocked shot, but certainly changed a shot from an easy shot to a very difficult shot. I was very impressed by the way he guarded Nash. He had the foot speed to keep him in front of him, and the length to bother his shots. One adjust we may need to make is not doubling the post as much. I know that has been a defensive staple, but with McKay guarding the post now it may not be necessary. It always seems like our opponents get a lot of open shots kicking it out of the double, swinging the ball, and getting an open three.

Offensively, Georges jump shot will come around. I think in time he and McKay will develop that chemistry that has led to Hogue getting some many easy layups on dump downs by Georges. I don't think McKay is hurting our spacing, as Georges has had success this year with Edozie in the lineup, and he certainly isn't much of an offensive threat. The biggest thing that will help Georges is Matt and Naz hitting threes.
 

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The other thing with Georges is there is now 2 years of tape on him. Teams, and especially conference opponents, know what to expect and his "unconventional" game is more of a known quantity now. He's going to have to adjust to how people are playing him. Right now, it seems to be give him some space on the perimeter, and using your length in the post and don't fall for his fakes.
 

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I see the 4 games as an encouraging thing. Hoibergs teams always take a few games to gel. Seemed the Cyclones had gotten a nice rhythm going, now they've added another piece. It's just going to take a few games against decent competition for these guys to figure out how to play with each other.
 

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I agree with a lot of this blog post

What Does McKay Add?

ISU's team defensive efficiency has gone from 84th after the Drake game to 56th after the OSU game. This is adjusted defensive efficiency so it takes into account the MVSU's of the world to a certain extent. ISU went up 12 spots just from last night.
 

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0-10 in his last 3, 2-15 in his last 5.

Curiously he had a 0-15 stretch over three games last year from Jan 7th through Jan 13th. He followed it up by going 14-27 in his next 4 games.


Didn't that stretch last year include the KU game? I don't think we want to go into the game this year hoping that Niang will win it with his 3s. I much prefer the Niang we saw in KC who made anyone who covered him look silly in the paint. And one of the keys for this this to happen is others like Naz need to be making their 3s.
 

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Georges has to hit open 3s or it really limits his effectiveness. We really benefited late in the game when Hogue hit a couple threes last night. That then created other opportunities for him and improved our spacing overall. Our offense is at its best when we have 4 guys that are a threat from three. Of those 4, the bigs are going to get the best looks. Right now our bigs struggling to knock down shots from the outside and it affects a lot of the things we like to do.
 

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I hope you're right. But the offense and particularly Niang has been quiet since he started. Is he actually hurting our spacing? I don't think so, but lately it seems like we're just ice cold.

Spacing? Maybe. I think McKay's affect has been seen in shrinking minutes for Nader and BDJ. Both players know this and seem to force the issue when on the court. BDJ has the ability to make great penetrating plays, but lately he's picked the wrong spots and has hampered an already icy offense.
 

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I don't think it's McKay that is affecting Niang. He's just in a slump. He'll come around I'm sure. Niang has around 15 minutes a game without McKay in there and its not like he's been sharp during those minutes either.

The 3 point shooting for the entire team was pretty amazing for a game in a half. Its not like they were taking bad shots either. It seemed like they not only missed them all, the missed the badly.
 

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Georges has to hit open 3s or it really limits his effectiveness. We really benefited late in the game when Hogue hit a couple threes last night. That then created other opportunities for him and improved our spacing overall. Our offense is at its best when we have 4 guys that are a threat from three. Of those 4, the bigs are going to get the best looks. Right now our bigs struggling to knock down shots from the outside and it affects a lot of the things we like to do.
Most of his threes from top of the key are short. He needs to step more into them.
 

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The one thing we are missing compared to last year is Kane's ability to post up opposing guards. I think that carried us through some rough shooting stretches.
 

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The one thing we are missing compared to last year is Kane's ability to post up opposing guards. I think that carried us through some rough shooting stretches.

I agree. We did this early with BDJ last night but never went back to it and BDJ had a big advantage on the guy guarding him.