With all due respect to those who know a heck of a lot more than I do, I hope we keep the entire staff - both offense and defense!!
Football Coaching Staff Next Year
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Agree with this. The lack of development has been alarming. This probably has a lot to do with inaccurate QB's and below average pass blocking but the receivers, outside of Jake Williams, did not show us much this year.
I don't think the problem is the receivers coach I think it is the receivers. Need better talent at the position, bottom line.
The secret of building a program is keeping the coaching staff together. Minnesota under Brewster constantly changed, and it flopped. Herman will prosper with a QB who grew up in the spread. We will have that next season.
Taking hints from what CPR has said over time, seems to me a fan can conclude we're not where we need to be yet.
* CPR has said the spread is particularly suited to a school in ISU's position (building program, allows the school to compete sooner). Dang, wish I could remember his explanation. Anyone else here recall CPR's reasoning?
* Today, ISU's offense is a case of sticking square pegs in round holes. He has said the OLine is in transformation, from big uglies to athletic, quick uglies ;-) And, remember when about mid-season CPR said we don't have receivers with the speed to create separation? So, one can deduce from CPR's remarks that the OLine and receiver corps aren't where we want to be yet.
* At another time, during his call-in show, CPR was asked what position groups were where he wanted them to be. He mentioned quarterback (so, no JUCO recruit here, likely), running back, linebacker, defensive back. . . . don't recall any further details. Anyone?
* I'll be danged if I'm one of those fans who automatically equates on-field results with the abilities of a particular coach. Could be the offense is two years away from becoming what the staff wants it to look like. Can't wait to see what Tom Herman can do when he has a chance to direct an offense of this staff's making.
Hey, a random thought. Since Missouri's Pinkel runs a powerful spread offense, how long did it take Missouri to rise from mediocrity to the next level? I can't recall.
* CPR has said the spread is particularly suited to a school in ISU's position (building program, allows the school to compete sooner). Dang, wish I could remember his explanation. Anyone else here recall CPR's reasoning?
* Today, ISU's offense is a case of sticking square pegs in round holes. He has said the OLine is in transformation, from big uglies to athletic, quick uglies ;-) And, remember when about mid-season CPR said we don't have receivers with the speed to create separation? So, one can deduce from CPR's remarks that the OLine and receiver corps aren't where we want to be yet.
* At another time, during his call-in show, CPR was asked what position groups were where he wanted them to be. He mentioned quarterback (so, no JUCO recruit here, likely), running back, linebacker, defensive back. . . . don't recall any further details. Anyone?
* I'll be danged if I'm one of those fans who automatically equates on-field results with the abilities of a particular coach. Could be the offense is two years away from becoming what the staff wants it to look like. Can't wait to see what Tom Herman can do when he has a chance to direct an offense of this staff's making.
Hey, a random thought. Since Missouri's Pinkel runs a powerful spread offense, how long did it take Missouri to rise from mediocrity to the next level? I can't recall.
I would like to keep all the staff. Spring ball will be interesting this year with wide open spots all over the offense. Defense played much better than I expected. Need to fill in the secondary.
I do not see a melt down when we played the toughest schedule in all college football, only to miss bowl eligibility by a missed two point conversion. I would say we have moved in the right direction.
I do not see a melt down when we played the toughest schedule in all college football, only to miss bowl eligibility by a missed two point conversion. I would say we have moved in the right direction.
CycloneErik
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I don't see how the WR coach could possibly feel secure. Even if they aren't "his guys," he should be able to teach them to get open and catch the ball.
You don't have to real technical about football to figure those are kind of the basic things a receiver is supposed to do. For two years, ours largely can't. That points to one guy in charge of it.
You don't have to real technical about football to figure those are kind of the basic things a receiver is supposed to do. For two years, ours largely can't. That points to one guy in charge of it.
Anyone think we could bring back Mike Grant as WR coach? He is currently coaching at Western Michigan and having success.
Mike Norvell is a good young guy who is coaching at Tulsa right now. He's also their recruiting coordinator so his connections down south would be a plus.
As far as I'm concerned, the only guys that should be sweating is the WR and OL coaches. Okay, we've got a lot of square pegs, but our receivers were never able to create separation and would flat out drop passes that hit them square in the hands, and I don't remember the last time I saw on OL as undisciplined as they were this season. You can't use "square pegs" as an excuse for undisciplined or unfocused play.
I can. That's the terrifc thing about being a fan. <g>
How is it Luke Wells's fault that his inherited receivers don't have the physical ability to separate? Toughest schedule in college football means the other teams have fine speed and quickness in their back sevens. And, does he teach them to drop passes? CPR earlier this season said the receivers lack speed.
My point is that a coach can be good at what he does although performance on the field says otherwise. Who evaluates whether or not this is the case for a particular coach? Not we fans, we are clueless . . . even though some of us don't know it. The head man, that's who. If LW is here next fall, or if he is not, we'll know what CPR's thinking is on the matter.
Barney Cotton was vilified here (not by me) at the end, but his NU OLines are more than respectable today.
Last season, many here were giving OLine Coach Bill Bliel tons of kudos. In one season, did he lose his ability to coach well? Or, maybe, is it perhaps the loss of Haughton was key? One player can make a huge difference. And, didn't KO's propensity for drawing penalties drop in a major way as the season went along?
We're not a talented football team right now. Whether or not the coaches are talented is an evaluation we fans can't make fairly, imo.
CycloneErik
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I agree that our talent is lacking on the offensive side. No doubt.
But if Wells can't do anything to coach the talent level we have, then there's no point for him to be here. Still have to coach the guys that are actually here.
I think Bliel got a lot of credit last year. As a hindsight guy right now, I'm wondering how much of his credit really belonged to Reggie Stephens and his leadership.
Last year, I don't remember the OL coming out looking like they weren't fired up. This year, they had several games that indicated they weren't ready to go.
I'd say the OL and WR positions are in doubt as to coaching skills. I might be wrong, and I'd welcome that.
But if Wells can't do anything to coach the talent level we have, then there's no point for him to be here. Still have to coach the guys that are actually here.
I think Bliel got a lot of credit last year. As a hindsight guy right now, I'm wondering how much of his credit really belonged to Reggie Stephens and his leadership.
Last year, I don't remember the OL coming out looking like they weren't fired up. This year, they had several games that indicated they weren't ready to go.
I'd say the OL and WR positions are in doubt as to coaching skills. I might be wrong, and I'd welcome that.
I think that Coach Bray and Shane Burhnam did the best job this year the improvements made on the D-Line was great. I said last spring that they would get a lot better because both of them were coaching D-Line for the first time last year. I think Shane will stay a couple more years. I hope we can keep Coach Bray around. He is also a good recruiter, I read he recruited Larry Fitzgerald and Joe Flacco to Pitt.
