DeAndre Kane signs with Iowa State

[HFCS]

I ran across Marshall's highlights of last years West Virginia game. Kane had a pretty good game, especially the first half, with a few wow plays. Should give a clear indication what he can do against B12 type completion.

Marshall Highlights vs WVU 2012 - YouTube

I don't get why people aren't even more excited, he's exactly what we needed to solidify the backcourt in case of injuries or a player or two not working out right away. CUSA isn't great but it's not a horrible league and clearly he is more than WVU can handle.

 

[Omaha Cy]

So...is this guy an immediate player, or does he sit out a year?

 

[acgclone]

I don't get why people aren't even more excited, he's exactly what we needed to solidify the backcourt in case of injuries or a player or two not working out right away. CUSA isn't great but it's not a horrible league and clearly he is more than WVU can handle.

Ya, this is huge. It fills one of our two big question marks (the other being the lack of a proven true post). It gives us a lot of versatility.

It allows MM to grow into the role. If MM is as good or better than advertised, these two can be on the court together, as Kane can play other guard spots. He's got good height, so if we play "small" with him and two other guards, he's big enough to help balance out our rebounding and D.

Even if he isn't a great outside shooter, there are plenty of other ways to score, plus having a guard that can drive and shoot/dish, is a great way to open up some of our other shooters.

As Matt A said, he gives us flexibility, which Hoiberg covets and seems to exploit.

I'm loving this addition.

 

[HFCS]

So...is this guy an immediate player, or does he sit out a year?

immediate, same situation as Jake Anderson I believe

 

[acgclone]

So...is this guy an immediate player, or does he sit out a year?

It's assumed that he plays immediately.

 

[Cydkar]

It's a huge get.

 

[clonedude]

It's a huge get.

Not if we lose someone else it isn't. Kane is about the equivalent of Bubu or Naz Long IMO. So if we lost one of those two it would be about a wash bringing him in. I know people will say I'm crazy to think that Bubu or Naz are as good as Kane, but they very well could be. What would Bubu or Naz do in the MAC Conference. Probably tear it up pretty good.

And other scholarship players on our team, if they were to not be here, would be a net loss IMO with the addition of Kane. And no, I'm not saying Kane isn't a good player that I'm glad we got, I'm just comparing him to others on scholarship.

Losing a Matt Thomas, Monte Morris, or SDW would be a MUCH bigger net loss IMO, just to the fact that these 3 have 4 years of eligibility remaining and look to have very bright futures. Niang and Ejim aren't even in the debate whatsoever. Losing either of those two would be catastrophic.

And according to Fred himself, all 4 JUCO's are going to be here. So we know it's none of them.

All I'm saying is that the addition of Kane is awesome, as long as we aren't losing anyone else. If we are losing someone else, I could possibly be a net loss, or at best a wash IMO.

 

[KFitzy87]

Not if we lose someone else it isn't. Kane is about the equivalent of Bubu or Naz Long IMO. So if we lost one of those two it would be about a wash bringing him in. I know people will say I'm crazy to think that Bubu or Naz are as good as Kane, but they very well could be. What would Bubu or Naz do in the MAC Conference. Probably tear it up pretty good.

And other scholarship players on our team, if they were to not be here, would be a net loss IMO with the addition of Kane. And no, I'm not saying Kane isn't a good player that I'm glad we got, I'm just comparing him to others on scholarship.

Losing a Matt Thomas, Monte Morris, or SDW would be a MUCH bigger net loss IMO, just to the fact that these 3 have 4 years of eligibility remaining and look to have very bright futures. Niang and Ejim aren't even in the debate whatsoever. Losing either of those two would be catastrophic.

And according to Fred himself, all 4 JUCO's are going to be here. So we know it's none of them.

All I'm saying is that the addition of Kane is awesome, as long as we aren't losing anyone else. If we are losing someone else, I could possibly be a net loss, or at best a wash IMO.

 

[VeloClone]

Not if we lose someone else it isn't. Kane is about the equivalent of Bubu or Naz Long IMO. So if we lost one of those two it would be about a wash bringing him in. I know people will say I'm crazy to think that Bubu or Naz are as good as Kane, but they very well could be. What would Bubu or Naz do in the MAC Conference. Probably tear it up pretty good.

And other scholarship players on our team, if they were to not be here, would be a net loss IMO with the addition of Kane. And no, I'm not saying Kane isn't a good player that I'm glad we got, I'm just comparing him to others on scholarship.

Losing a Matt Thomas, Monte Morris, or SDW would be a MUCH bigger net loss IMO, just to the fact that these 3 have 4 years of eligibility remaining and look to have very bright futures. Niang and Ejim aren't even in the debate whatsoever. Losing either of those two would be catastrophic.

And according to Fred himself, all 4 JUCO's are going to be here. So we know it's none of them.

All I'm saying is that the addition of Kane is awesome, as long as we aren't losing anyone else. If we are losing someone else, I could possibly be a net loss, or at best a wash IMO.

You are crazy.

 

[HFCS]

Not if we lose someone else it isn't. Kane is about the equivalent of Bubu or Naz Long IMO. So if we lost one of those two it would be about a wash bringing him in. I know people will say I'm crazy to think that Bubu or Naz are as good as Kane, but they very well could be. What would Bubu or Naz do in the MAC Conference. Probably tear it up pretty good.

And other scholarship players on our team, if they were to not be here, would be a net loss IMO with the addition of Kane. And no, I'm not saying Kane isn't a good player that I'm glad we got, I'm just comparing him to others on scholarship.

Losing a Matt Thomas, Monte Morris, or SDW would be a MUCH bigger net loss IMO, just to the fact that these 3 have 4 years of eligibility remaining and look to have very bright futures. Niang and Ejim aren't even in the debate whatsoever. Losing either of those two would be catastrophic.

And according to Fred himself, all 4 JUCO's are going to be here. So we know it's none of them.

All I'm saying is that the addition of Kane is awesome, as long as we aren't losing anyone else. If we are losing someone else, I could possibly be a net loss, or at best a wash IMO.

Huh, did you watch the video of the one handed tomahawk ally oop dunk? I don't think Bubu would do that in the MAC, no disrespect to him.

I agree losing one of the top 100 freshman would be big deal, nothing in the Hoiberg years points to that unless there were some kind of personal tragedy.

 

[VeloClone]

Not sure about that. Diante was pretty good his junior year. Remember when they played at 5th ranked KSU, a team that was playing for a number one seed, and a Diante led team beat them? Brackins and another starter had fouled out but Diante just kept taking it to them. They had no answer for him. I doubt Kane could pull off something like that his junior year. So in no way do I think Kane is ahead of where Diante was. However, you are right in that Fred will maximize as much as Kane's upside as possible this year. Fred is good at that.

Someone didn't see the highlights of his 40 pt game in the conference tourney.

I'm mostly giving you crap, but it was pretty darn impressive. Yes I realize that wasn't a ranked team but he was taking it to, around and through guards and their seven footers too.

 

[clonedude]

Huh, did you watch the video of the one handed tomahawk ally oop dunk? I don't think Bubu would do that in the MAC, no disrespect to him.

I agree losing one of the top 100 freshman would be big deal, nothing in the Hoiberg years points to that unless there were some kind of personal tragedy.

That's all I need to read to know you don't understand basketball at all. I doubt if Jeff Hornacek or John Stockton can dunk either. They must suck, huh? Wow. You never took Basketball 101, did you?

 

[Istater4life]

Not if we lose someone else it isn't. Kane is about the equivalent of Bubu or Naz Long IMO. So if we lost one of those two it would be about a wash bringing him in. I know people will say I'm crazy to think that Bubu or Naz are as good as Kane, but they very well could be. What would Bubu or Naz do in the MAC Conference. Probably tear it up pretty good.

And other scholarship players on our team, if they were to not be here, would be a net loss IMO with the addition of Kane. And no, I'm not saying Kane isn't a good player that I'm glad we got, I'm just comparing him to others on scholarship.

Losing a Matt Thomas, Monte Morris, or SDW would be a MUCH bigger net loss IMO, just to the fact that these 3 have 4 years of eligibility remaining and look to have very bright futures. Niang and Ejim aren't even in the debate whatsoever. Losing either of those two would be catastrophic.

And according to Fred himself, all 4 JUCO's are going to be here. So we know it's none of them.

All I'm saying is that the addition of Kane is awesome, as long as we aren't losing anyone else. If we are losing someone else, I could possibly be a net loss, or at best a wash IMO.

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[Cydkar]

Not if we lose someone else it isn't. Kane is about the equivalent of Bubu or Naz Long IMO. So if we lost one of those two it would be about a wash bringing him in. I know people will say I'm crazy to think that Bubu or Naz are as good as Kane, but they very well could be. What would Bubu or Naz do in the MAC Conference. Probably tear it up pretty good.

And other scholarship players on our team, if they were to not be here, would be a net loss IMO with the addition of Kane. And no, I'm not saying Kane isn't a good player that I'm glad we got, I'm just comparing him to others on scholarship.

Losing a Matt Thomas, Monte Morris, or SDW would be a MUCH bigger net loss IMO, just to the fact that these 3 have 4 years of eligibility remaining and look to have very bright futures. Niang and Ejim aren't even in the debate whatsoever. Losing either of those two would be catastrophic.

And according to Fred himself, all 4 JUCO's are going to be here. So we know it's none of them.

All I'm saying is that the addition of Kane is awesome, as long as we aren't losing anyone else. If we are losing someone else, I could possibly be a net loss, or at best a wash IMO.

It's a huge get.

 

[clonedude]

Someone didn't see the highlights of his 40 pt game in the conference tourney.

I'm mostly giving you crap, but it was pretty darn impressive. Yes I realize that wasn't a ranked team but he was taking it to, around and through guards and their seven footers too.

Who's to say what Bubu or Naz Long could do against crappy competition night after night? That's all I'm saying. Maybe Kane is an upgrade, but maybe he isn't. What if he's not as good a teammate as Bubu or Naz Long are?

The thing is, none of us know if we are just adding Kane, or if we are going to be losing someone else. What if SDW isn't coming back for instance? He's never even played in a game that counted yet, but I'd MUCH rather have him over Kane if those are my choices.

 

[Cydkar]

That's all I need to read to know you don't understand basketball at all. I doubt if Jeff Hornacek or John Stockton can dunk either. They must suck, huh? Wow. You never took Basketball 101, did you?

I heard Fred signed him to back up Bubu.

 

[KFitzy87]

That's all I need to read to know you don't understand basketball at all. I doubt if Jeff Hornacek or John Stockton can dunk either. They must suck, huh? Wow. You never took Basketball 101, did you?

Did you really just compare Naz Long and Bubu Palo to Jeff Hornacek and John Stockton?

 

[acgclone]

Not if we lose someone else it isn't. Kane is about the equivalent of Bubu or Naz Long IMO. So if we lost one of those two it would be about a wash bringing him in. I know people will say I'm crazy to think that Bubu or Naz are as good as Kane, but they very well could be. What would Bubu or Naz do in the MAC Conference. Probably tear it up pretty good.

And other scholarship players on our team, if they were to not be here, would be a net loss IMO with the addition of Kane. And no, I'm not saying Kane isn't a good player that I'm glad we got, I'm just comparing him to others on scholarship.

Losing a Matt Thomas, Monte Morris, or SDW would be a MUCH bigger net loss IMO, just to the fact that these 3 have 4 years of eligibility remaining and look to have very bright futures. Niang and Ejim aren't even in the debate whatsoever. Losing either of those two would be catastrophic.

And according to Fred himself, all 4 JUCO's are going to be here. So we know it's none of them.

All I'm saying is that the addition of Kane is awesome, as long as we aren't losing anyone else. If we are losing someone else, I could possibly be a net loss, or at best a wash IMO.

Your opinion is wrong, and it doesn't count as far as Fred is concerned, so you can carry on being a moron with no ramifications.

 

[Cy$]

Not if we lose someone else it isn't. Kane is about the equivalent of Bubu or Naz Long IMO. So if we lost one of those two it would be about a wash bringing him in. I know people will say I'm crazy to think that Bubu or Naz are as good as Kane, but they very well could be. What would Bubu or Naz do in the MAC Conference. Probably tear it up pretty good.

And other scholarship players on our team, if they were to not be here, would be a net loss IMO with the addition of Kane. And no, I'm not saying Kane isn't a good player that I'm glad we got, I'm just comparing him to others on scholarship.

Losing a Matt Thomas, Monte Morris, or SDW would be a MUCH bigger net loss IMO, just to the fact that these 3 have 4 years of eligibility remaining and look to have very bright futures. Niang and Ejim aren't even in the debate whatsoever. Losing either of those two would be catastrophic.

And according to Fred himself, all 4 JUCO's are going to be here. So we know it's none of them.

All I'm saying is that the addition of Kane is awesome, as long as we aren't losing anyone else. If we are losing someone else, I could possibly be a net loss, or at best a wash IMO.

no offense, because I'm happy as a fan that those two are Cyclones, but get off the pot dude.

 

[acgclone]

Bubu is serviceable and solid. Naz played virtually zero minutes when Bubu was suspended, and Bubu immediately went in front of him, so comparing Naz to Kane is silly. Naz is likely ahead of SDW from what I've heard.

Of course, we have no idea how good or (or not) that MM, MT and Bluford will be, so signing Kane was a big pick up.