Coronavirus Coronavirus: In-Iowa General Discussion (Not Limited)
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How can they have been "overestimating" it if their estimates were if steps aren't taken and then those steps were taken?
California was 30 and Iowa was 25 last I checked. To give domestic comparison. Obviously NY much worse than Sweden.
Then I'll assume lots of people not working or getting paid right now will go find work at grocery stores and volunteer at medical centers.
What does this Dr lady's (the blonde curly haired woman) shirt say? I hate it when people are doing pressers and do those stupid Tshirt things. Grow up.
They also won't be going through the insanity of trying to shut down in the fall either.
You don't know that. No one does. What we do know is they have a lot of deaths when compared to their neighboring countries.
People walking outside without a mask are fine, it's the large number of people that aren't wearing them into stores, etc that are the issue.
Again I understand the theory around wearing a mask and catching your own crap. I just don’t agree that it is more likely to prevent the spread than the other. I tried wearing a mask for a while. I was constantly adjusting it. Me constantly touching the mask to adjust it is more likely to cause the spread. I’m likely getting crap on my hands from my own mouth. I’m then touching other things. I’m also touching things other people have touched and then getting it near my face.
We should also remember that's current data. Obviously I'm not a medical expert, but with the concept of flattening the curve more deaths from areas with greater social distancing will come later.
So, Sweden banked on its (claimed?) robust health care system that they could withstand the surge of patients without a reduced standard of care with fewer curve flattening measures. So far it seems successful at least according to that article. This means Sweden would have its deaths up front while other countries deaths will be spread out over a longer time.
Obviously the key thing that could change this is if in the next 1-2 months (prior to strict social distancing measures ending in most countries) an effective treatment is developed that lowers mortality rates. Otherwise, it seems like most countries will experience a similar number of deaths per million citizens but just over a longer period of time.
how long did you wear it? Probably need to give it some time.
I think you don’t want to wear it and are coming up with a reason that you feel should exclude you from doing what actual medical experts recommend.
What's the plan for making sure people can get together with their elderly or high risk family members for holidays in the fall without putting them at risk?
How do we prevent outbreaks in beef plants? Who can farmers send their products to?
What about workers who are high risk or school kids with underlying conditions?
If we let off and the medical centers are deprived further of supplies and ability to treat people in a timely manner, are you OK with that?
I am not sure what her shirt says but I can tell you she isn't a doctor. She has a law background.
That study is talking about disinfecting surfaces with high viral loads in a laboratory setting not transmission of the disease in the environment. Not the same thing at all. I'm not saying summertime is going to solve all of the problems, but pretty much every epidemiologist I've seen expects some kind of seasonal effect. The question is to what degree will it help. Time will tell, but I don't think it's anything you can depend on at this point.
It's just going to *poof* disappear once summer hits.
Assuming the mortality rate will remain constant is a flawed strategy. The mortality rate is going to decrease over time as more research comes to fruition. Treatments will get better over time. Some people dying now most likely wouldn't have died had mitigation been in place.
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