Collin Bevins to NWMSU

[Cycsk]

D2 has a lot of talented players in it and for those thinking the workouts will be so much easier you are mistaken. We have all seen Yancy's treadmill workout which is cool but trust me when I say there are top tier strength and conditioning programs at D2, NWMSU is one that has a top tier program.

And trust me when I say football at the D2 level is a physical and mental grind just like D1. D2 players put in just as many hours with workouts, practice, training table, study table, PT, travel, etc. as D1. The only difference is we don't have huge multi million dollar facilities for it. Instead you are in a building sharing those areas with the basketball team, baseball team, etc. Nice facilities just not football specific. Is there more talent at D1, absolutely, but to act like D2 teams are junior high teams is crazy.

I can't argue on the one hand that our strength and conditioning program is so much better that it is a big factor in attracting D1 recruits from other schools, then on the other hand argue that it really isn't that much different at a D2 school, even a good one.

As I read the article on Yancy recently, I wondered whether some guys who really love playing football might be turned off by all the discipline related to strength and conditioning.

 

[breck53]

I was disappointed in his decision, but as a Bearcat alum I will cheer him on in the future. Good luck Collin.

Being from southern Iowa myself, NWMSU has a very good football program. Some kids just can't handle things as well as others. I know some of you don't remember, but Clint Riggs from southern Iowa went to ISU and I believe commited suicide on campus over breaking up with his girlfriend. He was a highly recruited football player and never seemed to settle in up there either. Does anyone on this board have any recollection of him?

 

[ChiefCy]

As I posted in another thread the commitment from D1 to D2 isn't much different. And to compare it to HS is flat stupid.

I don't disagrre with your commitment comment, but do not think the flat stupid remark is needed hey you don't agree no need for name calling

 

[ChrisMWilliams]

I know that CW has a bias for SW Iowa kids, but I'm just calling it like I see it. I'd feel the same no matter where he was from.

Dude I think only one SW Iowa kid (Collin) has played at Iowa State since Carper back in 2005...

How on earth can you say I have a bas toward them?

 

[klamath632]

Dude I think only one SW Iowa kid (Collin) has played at Iowa State since Carper back in 2005...

How on earth can you say I have a bas toward them?

As someone else in the thread mentioned, there is an eleven-page thread on these forums that discusses "the worst towns in Iowa." Some might say that deleting posts in this thread that talk bad about SW IA while leaving that other thread up might be a sign of bias.

Not saying that's how it is, and personally I give you the benefit of the doubt, but I can see where the argument could be made.

 

[Clone83]

As someone else in the thread mentioned, there is an eleven-page thread on these forums that discusses "the worst towns in Iowa." Some might say that deleting posts in this thread that talk bad about SW IA while leaving that other thread up might be a sign of bias.

Not saying that's how it is, and personally I give you the benefit of the doubt, but I can see where the argument could be made.

This thread isn't about "the worst towns in Iowa."

 

[Frak]

Dude I think only one SW Iowa kid (Collin) has played at Iowa State since Carper back in 2005...

How on earth can you say I have a bas toward them?

Maybe bias (or bas) is the wrong word, but I think that you're coming at this from a different viewpoint than just as an ISU fan. Knowing the family, I think that you give them the benefit of the doubt where from an ISU view, I see the conspiracy theory and the fact that it hurts ISU both on the field and the loss of a scholarship for the year as a major issue. I think that it's a line of BS at best and a lack of character at worst. More likely just BS.

 

[Doc]

I'm with you but I don't buy that Burnham favors out of state kids. I would imagine he is fair in his ball busting. I think if that were the case, he would have forced McDonough out when he was having issues at first.

And not just McDonough, Jensen played as a freshman, and Krick is going to make the rotation as a walk-on. If a walk-on from Iowa can come up through DT ranks and play, I really don't think he has much of a bias, if any.

 

[ChrisMWilliams]

Maybe bias (or bas) is the wrong word, but I think that you're coming at this from a different viewpoint than just as an ISU fan. Knowing the family, I think that you give them the benefit of the doubt where from an ISU view, I see the conspiracy theory and the fact that it hurts ISU both on the field and the loss of a scholarship for the year as a major issue. I think that it's a line of BS at best and a lack of character at worst. More likely just BS.

Okay. That's fair.

 

[ribsnwhiskey]

Careful, you might be chastised for this POV

You can't see the difference in what he posted as opposed to your post? You called the kid a loser. I doubt you would have the guts to say that to his face. People like you make the rest of us look bad.

 

[ChrisMWilliams]

And not just McDonough, Jensen played as a freshman, and Krick is going to make the rotation as a walk-on. If a walk-on from Iowa can come up through DT ranks and play, I really don't think he has much of a bias, if any.

Shane has a bias towards guys who can play. He wants to win. Period.

 

[CloneIce]

How can anyone be p***ed at this kid? He's not leaving for another D1 program and if he can't hack a B12 grind we can't use him. Best of luck to him. Next Cyclone in.

Because he was a freshman who was 1st string on the depth chart at a key position and he quit on his team a month or so before practice starts? Hope the move works out for him personally, but as a Cyclone fan losing a starter on our already thin DL sucks.

 

[The_Architect]

Maryville is a fun place to party so it's got that going for it.

 

[Clonefan32]

Conllin Bevins has joined the ranks of Lucca Staiger, Wes Johnson, Whats his name who transferred to a "school closer to home" Adam Haluska, Barkley Hill etc. I don't appreciate kids who say one thing and do another, if he lost his passion then so be it I am ok with that but to then go somewhere else to play the same sport baffles me. Be honest in your reasoning in leaving no matter what it is.

The most important thing you said in this post was "kids". He is a still a young kid trying to figure out what he wants to do with his life. Maybe he just decided he wasn't going to make a career out of football and thought it would be more enjoyable closer to home. Maybe there is something going on with his family where he needs to be closer to home. Maybe he had a falling out with the coaches. Who the hell knows.

What I do know, however, is that there are a ton of college aged kids that change their mind. I can think of a dozen friends of mine from college that wound up transfering. I don't really care what his reasoning is-- if he wants to leave then he should go. It seems especially hypocritical to criticize a kid for leaving a program when coaches, grown *** men being paid millions of dollars, can up and leave their team with absolutely no notice for a better job. Not to mention, as we have seen in basketball, coaches are within their rights to pull a scholarship from a kid if they have better talent. Most here didn't seem to have a problem with Fred doing this when it benefited Iowa State, but some are up in arms when a player doesn't honor a commitment and it hurts Iowa State.

Just like a kid risks their coach leaving when they commit to a team, a coach runs the risk of a player leaving when trying to decide their scholarship situation. It's the nature of the beast.

 

[carvers4math]

A kid from our little town went to school there cause he heard it was easy but for most of the first year he was there he referred to the school as "Northwestern." Maybe Bevins thinks it's the Big Ten.:biglaugh:

 

[ChrisMWilliams]

As someone else in the thread mentioned, there is an eleven-page thread on these forums that discusses "the worst towns in Iowa." Some might say that deleting posts in this thread that talk bad about SW IA while leaving that other thread up might be a sign of bias.

Not saying that's how it is, and personally I give you the benefit of the doubt, but I can see where the argument could be made.

That thread was about the "worst towns in Iowa." These posts were bashing an entire group of people based off of where they live - all because an Iowa State football player from the area decided to transfer to another school.

That is ridiculous.

Iowa State has had (off the top of my head) two real southwest Iowa players on its roster in the past decade. It's kind of hard for me to be biased towards "those guys" even if I wanted to. Actually, it'd be ridiculous because that statistic alone shows you that the talent level in that corner of the state isn't anywhere close to being what I would call "stocked."

 

[Clonefan32]

That thread was about the "worst towns in Iowa." These posts were bashing an entire group of people based off of where they live - all because an Iowa State football player from the area decided to transfer to another school.

That is ridiculous.

Iowa State has had (off the top of my head) two real southwest Iowa players on its roster in the past decade. It's kind of hard for me to be biased towards "those guys" even if I wanted to. Actually, it'd be ridiculous because that statistic alone shows you that the talent level in that corner of the state isn't anywhere close to being what I would call "stocked."

Boy, I've seen alot on this website but arguing about a geographical bias in reporting is a new one on me.

I think the only rational thing to do at this point is to start a rival website "South Central Iowa Cyclone Fanatics" where we I can slant the reporting to best tailor the needs of readers in the Greater Des Moines area.

 

[ChrisMWilliams]

To be honest with you guys, I can KIND OF relate to Collin. I grow up a half hour from Maryville. My mom and sister both graduated from NWMSU. Maryville felt like home to me because I was there a lot growing up.

I HATED my first year at Iowa State and it was my own fault. I just stayed in my dorm room with a couple of friends, wasn't involved and as a result, didn't meet people. I actually thought about going to NWMSU for my sophomore year. I missed home badly (many kids do - it is part of the process that we are all well aware of).

Luckily, I toughed it out and it was the best decision of my life to stay at Iowa State. I wish that Collin would have given Iowa State at least another semester but hey, who am I to judge what he wants to do with his own life?

 

[ChrisMWilliams]

Boy, I've seen alot on this website but arguing about a geographical bias in reporting is a new one on me.

LOL. So true. It's my own fault though. I love where I am from and write/talk about it a lot. Hence the criticism. That's fine. Part of the job.

 

[Clark]

That's pretty inaccurate. HS to D3 is still a jump in commitment but not a huge one (Can be big depending where you go) D2 and D1 as far as commitment levels are almost the same. That's where this becomes a head scratcher. Pure speculation but it wouldn't surprise me if a female is behind this. I've seen guys do some strange thing for the fairer sex.

this was my assumption when I heard where he was going.