It's also possible those mid major coaches who at least have some HC experience, winning experience, and fast paced offense experience can hire a former HC to the staff too.
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And who says they don't?
I think the list of 4 candidates all bring strengths and weaknesses to the table. None of them are head and shoulders above the others. That means that TJ will probably get the job. But it is a very good thing that they are at least talking to the other 3. Maybe one of them is just as much of a basketball genius as Hoiberg and has an amazing plan for Iowa State.
TJ would hire more than 1 assistant, right? Does the NCAA mandate a limit on a college staff? Meaning, if he kept all other staffers, he needs to replace Henry (assuming he's going w/Fred) and himself. Won't he have two to hire then? Hopefully like you say, a Lutz type, and then a great recruiter. Hopefully by saving on his salary compared to Fred, he could lure assistants with decent pay.
Didn't Slice (don't even know his real name) from UK getting hired by St. John's for some huge amount? $500 k or something?
I'm ok with Otz, but I'd feel even better if he had spent the last 2 yrs under Fred and not Romar.
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I'm honestly good with any of the candidates that we know about. It is what it is.
People seem to lose sight of the fact that Fred succeeded because he could sell his NBA contacts/experience. That is what got us players that were traditionally above our grade. TJ, MA, Corn, all had an easier sell... Hilton Magic, Hoiberg, etc. THAT is what got us in on RV, Diallo, and players like that. Not Iowa State University.
We lose that advantage no matter who we hire.
People seem to lose sight of the fact that Fred succeeded because he could sell his NBA contacts/experience. That is what got us players that were traditionally above our grade. TJ, MA, Corn, all had an easier sell... Hilton Magic, Hoiberg, etc. THAT is what got us in on RV, Diallo, and players like that. Not Iowa State University.
We lose that advantage no matter who we hire.
Fred got us in with those guys, but didn't land them. Not sure not getting on their list matters too much. Our bread and butter will always be the 50-125 players like Georges, Matt and Monte. I'll take those kinds of guys all day every day.
And the same goes for the opposite, just because an assistant has had some recruiting success, does not mean they are going to be successful at this level or this school as a head coach.
As in the case of Prohm or Underwood, they at least have SOME track record of success as a head coach. A head coach does a lot more than just recruit (although they spend a lot of time on the recruiting trail too).
I disagree with someone having a couple of years experience should not be favored over someone with no experience. If TJ was that great of a head coach candidate, don't you think some D1 school would have snapped him up by now? I think experience as head coach when you are applying for a head coaching job should trump just about anything else. If you are applying for a job, what is the first thing they will ask you? It will be.... "Do you have experience? Oh you have no experience? Thanks, we will keep your resume on file."
And your point is what? And you think that a person with zero head coaching experience anywhere has a better chance of being good? While it's possible, it probably isn't terribly likely unless they were an assistant under some of the best programs (i.e. Kansas, Duke, UNC, Kentucky, etc).
It's not just 'a couple years of experience' they have though. It's multiple years of winning conference championships, and getting their teams to max out their potential.
Nothing is a sure thing, but we're not just looking for any Joe Schmoe that's coached for a couple years. We're looking for coaches that have had success, and that get the most out of their teams.
The person mentioned earlier here, who I think could keep everything going in the right direction is Krystowiak.
Qualifications:
NBA Player
NBA coaching experience
Got to the second round with Montana in the Tourney
Got to the Elite 8 in his second year in Utah, and they SUCKED bad prior to him getting the job. He does have western roots, but if he would be happy here, he could crush!
Qualifications:
NBA Player
NBA coaching experience
Got to the second round with Montana in the Tourney
Got to the Elite 8 in his second year in Utah, and they SUCKED bad prior to him getting the job. He does have western roots, but if he would be happy here, he could crush!
I had thought about him but wrote him off as not on the list for some reason. That would be pretty interesting right there..
Great post! We were lucky as hell that Fred turned out the way he did even with his front office credentials. I'd put my money on a guy that had a track record of winning games any day.
I bet the best future HC's amongst current assistants aren't at any of those schools.
Not happening. He makes 2.5 million and he's from that region. And never mind his W-L record he is not as good of a recruiter as T.J.
Let's put it another way then - the assistants with no head coaching experience who are most likely to get hired as a head coach into a major program are at those types of schools.
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