Cleveland Brown's New Coach - Lincoln Riley?
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Anyone that says Campbell would no way leave Iowa State have to be new fans of Iowa State.
What will fans in Cleveland think? Sure, young, relatively unproven coaches are getting a crack at jobs. But the overwhelming trend is to get guys that have proven they can be offensive innovators, and "QB whisperers." While Campbell is a damn good CFB head coach, NFL is now obsessed with getting an offensive mind as the head coach. Campbell's background on offense focuses on OL. It's been by far ISU's worst position group in his tenure, albeit improving. There have been games where ISU has had the two best players on the field when the offense is on the field in Montgomery and Butler. While there have been moments of very good offense, more often than not it's ranged between mediocre and poor.
Somebody call Barta I heard the captain is entertaining calls. Needs a pay boost and another 5 years.
Yeah, Cleveland is a train wreck, and their problems are deeper than the head coach. You want a short gig and a paycheck, that's your kind of place. Smart people would stay the hell away from that mess.
Huge Browns fan here. What the fans are saying is that CMC is a Dorsey (the GM) guy and they could see it happening. The fans would take him, but not their first choice. They want an offensive innovator like Lincoln Riley, or someone like Jim Tressel or Urban Meyer (remember, they're in OSU country, so...) that could bring maturity to the organization and turn the team over to young innovative coordinators. They would take CMC because he's an offensive coach, but think he's too conservative for what they want.
Ironically, Tom Herman is another name that's been floated around, but they have major OSU blinders on, so I certainly take what they say with a grain of salt.
This is what they feel, not necessarily what I think or want. I have no idea who or what I want. Just glad to see Hue gone.
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That’s somewhere between Chizik’s firmly entrenched denial and Hoiberg’s refusal-to-refuse (confirmation) he was interested in the NBA.
Not disagreeing with you, but others think differently.
http://www.espn.com/blog/cleveland-...-browns-job-should-be-so-appealing-to-coaches
From the article:
The Browns job is an attractive opening that should draw interest around the NFL and the college coaching circles. Many of the pieces a coach wants are present.
The first is the quarterback. The drafting of Baker Mayfield and his play have provided reason to believe he will be the guy going forward. He’s had good moments and he’s had rookie struggles, but his overall approach, effort, competitiveness and football smarts give reason to believe in his future.
Second is the Browns roster has talent, much of it young. On offense, running back Nick Chubb played well enough to force a Carlos Hyde trade. Jarvis Landry will be one of the receivers, joined by Antonio Callaway, who had one of his better overall games in Pittsburgh.
Defensively, ends Myles Garrett and Emmanuel Ogbah, tackle Larry Ogunjobi, corner Denzel Ward and safeties Damarious Randall and Jabrill Peppersprovide a foundation.
None of the defensive players are past their fourth year in the league.
Those young players were supplemented in the offseason by the roster overhaul of general manager John Dorsey, who transformed 60 percent of the roster via trades and free agent signings.
Dorsey also will have a boatload of salary cap room to work with in the next offseason as well, the third reason this job is attractive.
ESPN’s Roster Management System states the Browns have $59 million in salary cap space. That number is fluid, but Dorsey should have plenty of cap space to add pieces to the team.
The last reason this job is attractive: Dorsey and the front office he’s built.
Dorsey is a Ron Wolf guy, a man who treats people with respect but a guy who will not tolerate unnecessary drama (witness Jackson and Todd Haley both being let go on the same day). He’s also an aggressive guy who will do all he can to improve a team.
The front office that he built includes Alonzo Highsmith and Eliot Wolf, like Dorsey former Packers front office types whose beliefs are rooted in scouting and personnel. They join holdover Andrew Berry to give any new hire an experienced, credible front office.
The Browns job in the past has been a leftover of sorts, the job folks did not want to take.
That isn’t true with this opening.
This is a job a lot of coaches will want to pursue.
Great non-answer. He might as well have winked into the camera and made the "call me" gesture.
If it's an attractive job, then Campbell isn't likely to end up at the top of the list.
Yeah, I like Dorsey. Not a fan of Jimmy Halem and his history of impatience might give me pause if I was a candidate for the job, but overall I don't hate the situation in Cleveland. It's not the worst job in the league, which is progress for them.
Good point. Hopefully your right! Just nice having someone that people actually want...
I've asked this question before, but who was the last guy to go directly from college head coach to NFL head coach and actually be successful? Chip Kelly flamed out pretty quick. Jim Harbuagh got canned too.
Who has actually had sustained success after that kind of jump?
Most NFL teams want a coach who has at least been a coordinator in the NFL. The NFL is a completely different animal than college football and learning all the ins and outs of the NFL while trying to take over as head coach is a huge adjustment.
While some Browns fans would trust their GM to make a good hire, there are going to be plenty who want a proven NFL coach or coordinator, not some guy from Iowa State who they've never heard of.
Campbell is getting some publicity as a college coach, but I don't think he's at the point where he would legitimately be a candidate for an NFL head coaching position.
Who has actually had sustained success after that kind of jump?
Most NFL teams want a coach who has at least been a coordinator in the NFL. The NFL is a completely different animal than college football and learning all the ins and outs of the NFL while trying to take over as head coach is a huge adjustment.
While some Browns fans would trust their GM to make a good hire, there are going to be plenty who want a proven NFL coach or coordinator, not some guy from Iowa State who they've never heard of.
Campbell is getting some publicity as a college coach, but I don't think he's at the point where he would legitimately be a candidate for an NFL head coaching position.
Their problems really aren't deeper than the coaching right now. Jackson, Haley and Williams are not good enough coaches to win there. Is the roster Super Bowl ready? No, but they should be making the playoffs or at least getting close.
I mean, Harbaugh didn't miss the NFC Championship until his lame duck season. He may have gotten canned but that franchise is run similar to the Browns. He's about the only one I can think of. It hasn't worked well in the past.
I'd argue that Harbaugh was successful in his transition if you're only talking W/L record. It was his relationship wit the front office that got him run out in SF. Pete Carroll has had a pretty good run in Seattle, although he also probably learned from his first and second failed stints in the NFL before he revived his career at USC.
Beyond that you'd have to go back a ways - Jimmy Johnson from the U to Dallas, and Bill Walsh from Stanford to SF.
But the game is changing, and the NFL is borrowing so much from the college game right now that the leap might not be as daunting as it used to be. So the issue might not be so much Xs and Os as it is manging personalities. Tougher to control the players when several of them make more than you do. It could be done, but you'd want to do what Sean McVay did and bring in some experienced assistants to do a little handholding in the first year or two.
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