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clonedude

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It's almost like Ohio Stare wasn't the best team in the Big 10 and didn't deserve to make the playoff...

Yeah, it was almost like they didn't win their conference championship, or even their division of their conference or something?

But in past years a conference championship was a necessity.
 

CysRage

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How can College Football's best conference be 2-5 right now?
 

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Look up Sagarin or Massey conference rankings over the past two decades (it's very easy to do). You'll find the Big 12 ranked analytically higher around 90% of the time the past two decades. The Big 12 is on average clearly the 2nd best football conference over the past two decades and the Big Ten isn't the 1st.

Big Ten was slightly better than the Big 12 this year, although still wildly overrated in that idiots though you should have 2 or 3 teams in the CFP. It's been a loooooooooong time since you could say that.
 
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M3MEPLEASE

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Big ten has one bad bowl game so far and the big 12 coattail riders (aka Iowa state fans and HFCS) now believe the big 12 was only slightly worse than the big ten this year. Nevermind that the big 12 champion got their asses handed to them on their home field by OSU.

Big 12 has become a one team league (just like basketball) and completely irrelevant in the playoffs unless OU has 11+ wins.
 
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That game wasn't just a bad game for Ohio State, it was a beatdown.

And possibly a rape:

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Big ten has one bad bowl game so far and the big 12 coattail riders (aka Iowa state fans and HFCS) now believe the big 12 was only slightly worse than the big ten this year. Nevermind that the big 12 champion got their asses handed to them on their home field.

Big 12 has become a one team league (just like basketball) and completely irrelevant in the playoffs unless OU has 11+ wins.

Look up computer rankings, Big 12 is just barely behind Big Ten. Big 12 has been ahead of them 90% of the time over the past two decades. If the Big Ten has a bad day today it's quite possible that an objective statistical analysis of even this year will say the Big 12 is still better in a clear down year.

I think you look at the best team and compare. Big 12 fans look at your whole conference and how there are always 5-6 horrible teams at the bottom where the Big 12 usually has 1 or 2 of which ISU is admittedly part of sometimes.

As for your last sentence, how can the Big 12 help it that the CFP is stacked with Big Ten homers who apply different rules to Ohio State and TCU?
 
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clonedude

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Look up Sagarin or Massey conference rankings over the past two decades (it's very easy to do). You'll find the Big 12 ranked analytically higher around 90% of the time the past two decades. The Big 12 is on average clearly the 2nd best football conference over the past two decades and the Big Ten isn't the 1st.

Big Ten was slightly better than the Big 12 this year, although still wildly overrated in that idiots though you should have 2 or 3 teams in the CFP. It's been a loooooooooong time since you could say that.

Don't confuse the mentally weak with facts HFCS. They don't like facts. It's easier to just go off of emotions for them.
 

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Big ten has one bad bowl game so far and the big 12 coattail riders (aka Iowa state fans and HFCS) now believe the big 12 was only slightly worse than the big ten this year. Nevermind that the big 12 champion got their asses handed to them on their home field.

Big 12 has become a one team league (just like basketball) and completely irrelevant in the playoffs unless OU has 11+ wins.

Well, TCU and Baylor were relevant but they don't generate enough TV viewers so they got dumped
 

M3MEPLEASE

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As for your last sentence, how can the Big 12 help it that the CFP is stacked with Big Ten homers who apply different rules to Ohio State and TCU?

Maybe not get destroyed on your home field by Ohio state
 
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CysRage

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Maybe not get destroyed on your home field by Ohio state
Me thinks if/when the Hawks get their asses kicked tomorrow, you won't still be running your mouth. But keep pumping up the Big Ten, conference pride right?
 

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Big ten has one bad bowl game so far and the big 12 coattail riders (aka Iowa state fans and HFCS) now believe the big 12 was only slightly worse than the big ten this year. Nevermind that the big 12 champion got their asses handed to them on their home field by OSU.

Big 12 has become a one team league (just like basketball) and completely irrelevant in the playoffs unless OU has 11+ wins.

You funny. You come to an ISU fan board and are alarmed that it's populated with Iowa State and Big 12 fans they aren't into blowing the Big 10 at every opportunity? :eek:
 
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You funny. You come to an ISU fan board and are alarmed that it's populated with Iowa State and Big 12 fans they aren't into blowing the Big 10 at every opportunity? :eek:

He's alarmed we're commenting that the talking heads wanted 2 or 3 B1G teams in the playoff and Michigan barely lost to #14 ACC non champ and Ohio State got absolutely blown out. Penn State and Wisconsin need to absolutely dominate today for the Big Ten to not be one of the most overrated conferences ever this season. Iowa winning can help them a little but if those top 4 teams that are all rated in the top 8 all get smoked...wow, talk about exposing a lot of bias in college football coverage and CFP selection.
 

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Uhhh no.

So the year Iowa only lost one game all year, and that was to ISU, then you would agree that ISU was the better team than Iowa that year, right?

Hey man, you're the one that argued in the passed that scoreboard always determines who is better. You change your mind on that?