Cincinnati and Memphis to the Big 12?

[BEWGER85]

Eh. I'd rather lose to texas and OU in the hopes of one day beating them than beat teams like Memphis and cincy and pretend the north XII isn't conference USA.

Why would anyone prefer to lose?

 

[shagcarpetjesus]

Why would anyone prefer to lose?

ISU should just move down to D2 for football. I bet we could dominate down there.

 

[1Nation]

ISU should just move down to D2 for football. I bet we could dominate down there.

Because we lost by 20 to North Dakota State......

 

[ISpyCy]

ISU should just move down to D2 for football. I bet we could dominate down there.

Because ISU vs. Upper Iowa University would be a real barn-burner.

 

[CoKane]

Here is what who I would like to see the Big 12 add:
Option 1: UConn and North Dakota State(since they obviously would compete in the B12)
Option 2: Nebraska and Missouri

Don't those sounds great? In all seriousness adding Arkansas and Cincy would be good choices and would make sense geographically. Cincy is probably dying to get out of the **** hole that is the AAC so they would be easy, but getting Arkansas from the SEC would be pretty tough.

 

[CoKane]

So why wasn't BYU added to the Pac 12 if they were such a great get? BYU is located almost 1,900 miles from Morgantown WV. They do not play on Sundays.....and for television deals and basketball......that hurts. I see no reason to add BYU when there are better options out there that would be available. No real reason to expand, expecially when the Big 12 gets 2 teams into the Final Four of Football.

What does this have to do with anything? The Big 12 does practically nothing on Sundays anyways. The Pac 12 didn't add BYU because BYU wanted to go independent and be the Notre Dame of the west or something like that.

 

[CoKane]

A) I don't think we are adding Cincy or Memphis
B) if this did happen would the B12 be ballsy enough to set up a conference schedule that pushed teams toward the playoff. Say a weird pod system.
So there would be 4 pods.
East - WVU, Cincy, Memphis
North - KSU, ISU, OU
West - OU, OSU, TT
South - UT, TCU, BU

2 games against your pod rivals
6 games against other pods, So first year East vs North and West, North vs East and South, West vs East and South, South vs North and West.
1 game versus the team in the pod you didn't play with the equal place to you. So first year East vs South and West vs North.

Championship game winner of the games of E1vsS1 Vs W1N1

Granted that last game of the year wouldn't be known until the end of the first 8 games, I think it would help keep the interest in the conference.

The only problem I see here is that the North pod is going to be Kansas State making Iowa State and Kansas their *******, and when Synder leaves the whole thing will suck while Baylor and TCU kick the **** out of Texas, who would never allow themselves to get stuck in a position like that.

 

[Stormin]

What does this have to do with anything? The Big 12 does practically nothing on Sundays anyways. The Pac 12 didn't add BYU because BYU wanted to go independent and be the Notre Dame of the west or something like that.

The Pac 12 rejected BYU first. Then BYU decided to become independent.

The Big 12 does not need BYU and does not need BYU dictating the terms of when they get to play. No other team in our conference gets to decide when they want to play games. And BYU shouldn't either if they were in the conference. Perhaps ISU should be able to dictate that there be no night games after mid November because of our location north. Should that be allowed?

 

[cygrads]

Big XII should offer Mizoo & Arkansas - go big or stay at 10.

 

[CyBobby]

I'd buy cincy, but not Memphis. Uconn or a Florida school would be better.

I agree Memphis does nothing for the conference....

 

[Stormin]

If expansion were to occur it might be Cinci and UCF. It makes much more sense than BYU. If you are going to have a team on an island in the Big 12, it is better that it is in Florida rather than Utah.

 

[Bestaluckcy]

Perhaps ISU should be able to dictate that there be no night games after mid November because of our location north. Should that be allowed?

Would be nice to get some respect for all the easy "W" s we give the other Big 12 teams.:smile:

 

[Cyforce]

what I would do
8 conferences of 10 teams each
perfectly balanced, only schools really capable of fielding big-time teams

Division IV

Big East
---
Boston College
Maryland
Notre Dame
Pitt
Penn St.
Rutgers
Syracuse
Virginia
Virginia Tech
WVU

Big Ten
---
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
Northwestern
Ohio St.
Purdue
Wisconsin

Big 8
---
Colorado
Colorado State
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Louisville
Missouri
Nebraska
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State

ACC
---
Central Florida
Clemson
Duke
Florida St.
Georgia Tech
Miami
North Carolina
NC St.
South Carolina
Wake Forest

SEC
---
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
LSU
Mississippi
Miss St.
Vanderbilt
Tennessee

SWAC
---
Arkansas
Baylor
Houston
New Mexico
Rice
SMU
TCU
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech

Mountain West
---
Boise State
BYU
Fresno State
Nevada
San Diego St.
San Jose St.
UNLV
Utah
Utah St.
Wyoming

Pac 10
---
Arizona
Arizona State
Cal
Southern California
Stanford
Oregon
Oregon St.
UCLA
Washington
Washington St.

9 game full round-robin in each conference
8 champions seeded for a playoff
first two rounds on-campus, championship neutral site
no "out of division" games allowed
3 out of conference games a year for regional rivalries and matchups
i.e. Virginia Tech v. Ohio State, Iowa State v. Iowa

This year, something like...

(1) Alabama
(8) West Virginia
Tuscaloosa, AL

(4) TCU
(5) Ohio St.
Ft. Worth, TX

(3) Oregon
(6) Kansas St.
Eugene, OR

(2) Florida St.
(7) Boise St.
Tallahassee, FL

no controversy--win your conference or don't come crying
seeding/out of conference strength becomes paramount
(#1/#2 have MUCH easier first games than does Oregon and TCU)
may the best team win
bowls can stick around as meaningless exhibitions/vacations if they want

Think you mean SWC, the SWAC is Grambling, Southern and the other Historical Black Universities.

 

[CyBobby]

"Bob, you guys had a chance to add teams and you sat on your money. Tough darts. No conference championship game for a ten team league, true champ or not"

I'm hoping for a Kansas State win @ Bayloor tonight so we have ONE TRUE Champion, otherwise this could get real Ugly.

 

[CyFan61]

I'm hoping for a Kansas State win @ Bayloor tonight so we have ONE TRUE Champion, otherwise this could get real Ugly.

If KSU and TCU win then they both will tie, too.

 

[Cincyclone]

Boy I'd love an away game close by I could go to easily...bring in Cincy! Memphis is meh, I'd prefer UCF or BYU

 

[TXCyclones]

For anyone who "wants" Cinci in the B12, you need turn on ESPN right now and see all 17 fans who showed up for their home game against Houston. It's just sad.

 

[BaylorHistory]

We aren't adding them, but Memphis football does deserve some credit. They are AAC Champions at 9-3 (7-1) including a 41-14 win over Cincinnati.

 

[KillBilly]

gimme BYU. The Big 12 would have Mormons, Baptists, and Christians. We would be missing the Methodists from SMU but 3 out of 4 is pretty good.

Also, if the Big 12 did add Cincy Tommy. Tuberville would be back in the Big 12 after leaving TT.

I would also take Cincy.

Actually, bringing Tuberville back would intrigue Tech fans. That said, I believe DeLoss Dodds f****d the Big 12 by failing to go after Louisville. I kind of like round-robin play.

 

[Tornado man]

For anyone who "wants" Cinci in the B12, you need turn on ESPN right now and see all 17 fans who showed up for their home game against Houston. It's just sad.

Amen brother. We need teams with large fan bases. That means no commuter schools. Cincinnati - no way.