CFB Playoff Discussion
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I have no idea why the committee is even taking into consideration that a school plays in their conference championship game.
Sure, treat it like any other game on their schedule, fine, but don't give it any extra meaning. Ohio State's SOS still has to be considered weak even when you add on the championship game. They played in a horrible conference. So does winning your conference "championship" mean anything when your conference sucks? It shouldn't.
But the committee has already said that they will give more "points" or whatever it is that they assign, to the teams that have to play a conference championship game. Why? What does a win over Wisky really do for OSU? Wisky lost to Northwestern.... and barely beat Iowa. It's not that great of a win.
Sure, treat it like any other game on their schedule, fine, but don't give it any extra meaning. Ohio State's SOS still has to be considered weak even when you add on the championship game. They played in a horrible conference. So does winning your conference "championship" mean anything when your conference sucks? It shouldn't.
But the committee has already said that they will give more "points" or whatever it is that they assign, to the teams that have to play a conference championship game. Why? What does a win over Wisky really do for OSU? Wisky lost to Northwestern.... and barely beat Iowa. It's not that great of a win.
This is where I was confused. I believe Reece Davis and the rest of the ESPN College Gameday team stressed that the playoffs were for the four best teams, not the four best conference champions (Because they were trying to lock Mississippi State in still). To their point, one would think both Baylor and TCU should be in no doubt if two teams lose Saturday.
I also believe their emphasis was placed on champions and not championship games necessarily so TCU should be fine. Even though the championship game provides an extra look at other conferences' teams they should realize the extra conference game is that same extra look at a Big 12 team because we didn't have a throw away game midseason vs Western Carolina like Alabama and those teams. Those extra non con cupcakes should not equal the same extra look of that of a conference game.
This is my understanding too, although this does not help TCU, because I saw that the committee wants to only consider one team as champion from each conference. So they would give Baylor the same bump that Oregon, Alabama, Florida State, and Ohio State got (assuming they win next weekend) but TCU would not get that bump.
This is correct. I think TCU is only helped on the standing that they have similar to Mississippi State previously in the 4 spot. If OSU loses and Florida State then TCU should be in on that notion, I would think, in the sense that they don't need a championship to get in.
If they want to add weight to teams who win a conference title, I don't have a big problem with that. Giving favoritism to conferences that have a title game over those that play round robin -- that is b.s.
The champion was how it was supposed to be but revisionist espn history and committee is making it about the game now.
Well.... I guess per the other thread that UAB is out :wink:
My point is that the committee doesn't ding other conferences for weak lower and mid-tier teams. We don't necessarily need to add "good" teams. Just teams. We might as well look at weak teams to backfill the bottom tier of the conference that will spread the Big IIXII more into the southeast or Florida.
But I am unconvinced that the lack of a championship game hurts the Big 12 at all. In fact, if TCU and Baylor both end up in the playoff, the lack of a championship game could actually help the Big 12.
I agree about Florida though; if the Big 12 ever does expand, I have to think that UCF would be high on the list. UCF and UConn would be pretty solid adds at this point but only if we had to go to 12. I miss the expansion talk of a few years ago when Florida State and Clemson were in the mix for the Big 12.
Mizzou beats Bama, Arizona beats Oregon, GT beats Florida State, K-State beats Baylor, Wisconsin beats OSU, and we beat TCU!
1 - Arizona
2 - K-State
3 - Bama
4 - Michigan State
TEAM CHAOS!!!!
1 - Arizona
2 - K-State
3 - Bama
4 - Michigan State
TEAM CHAOS!!!!
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More people weighing in. One True Champion may be up for grabs through the last game on Saturday night.
More people weighing in. One True Champion may be up for grabs through the last game on Saturday night.
ESPN's coverage of this has become a complete farce.
Kirk Herbstreit (Ohio State grad) and Joey Galloway (Ohio State grad) were the first people they had commenting just now on who should get the 4th slot if everybody wins on Saturday. Guess who they picked?
They aren't even trying to hide the bias anymore. They are openly campaigning for the chance to get OSU's massive fanbase into the playoff that they broadcast over smaller schools like TCU or Baylor.
Rece Davis also said that TCU has "pretty much a bye" this weekend, but it's harder to argue with that.
Kirk Herbstreit (Ohio State grad) and Joey Galloway (Ohio State grad) were the first people they had commenting just now on who should get the 4th slot if everybody wins on Saturday. Guess who they picked?
They aren't even trying to hide the bias anymore. They are openly campaigning for the chance to get OSU's massive fanbase into the playoff that they broadcast over smaller schools like TCU or Baylor.
Rece Davis also said that TCU has "pretty much a bye" this weekend, but it's harder to argue with that.
Herbstreit is such a homer.
All year long he wanted the committee to throw out OSU's loss against a horrible VTech team because they had a new QB playing. But TCU can't throw out their loss against a much better Baylor team because they got screwed on a late PI call in that game? What a d-bag homer.
TCU played a tougher schedule than Ohio State (even if you count the B1G Championship game), and their one loss was against a MUCH better team. And now OSU is down to their 3rd string QB. They should never get in.
All year long he wanted the committee to throw out OSU's loss against a horrible VTech team because they had a new QB playing. But TCU can't throw out their loss against a much better Baylor team because they got screwed on a late PI call in that game? What a d-bag homer.
TCU played a tougher schedule than Ohio State (even if you count the B1G Championship game), and their one loss was against a MUCH better team. And now OSU is down to their 3rd string QB. They should never get in.
