People act like it's tough to be a decent person and study with your University provided tutor. It's pretty basic stuff.
Cam Lard and Zoran Talley are suspended until December
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Fighting with a teammate, skipping practice, etc is a lot more "detrimental" to the team than getting an OWI yes
We had significant chemistry issues last year. We had no depth, so CSP was stuck in a corner. This year he doesn't have to put up with the same stuff. Put the team before yourself or don't play.
Man I don't know how you can blame McKay's issues on Prohm. I can't remember one person blaming Fred for BDJ if you want to compare
Maybe I just overvalue how bad a DUI/OWI is but unless you are failing out of school there isn't anything worse that I wouldn't kick them off the team for. If they are being a cancer or something you get them away from the team.
I know the answer but don’t want to offend anyone.
I really didn’t want to be reading through a thread like this 3 hours into the ******* season.
I could be wrong, but I believe internal drug tests are treated as a medical situation and are kept confidential by law. So if they failed a drug test, Prohm isn't allowed to tell the media that. It's the same reason it was never publicly stated why Jacob Park was suspended (failed likely multiple internal drug tests). All coaches can say in that situation is something vague like "Violation of Team Rules".
No just using examples of things more detrimental to the team than an OWI
I have heard completely unfounded murmurs of failed drug tests. I think that makes sense from what we know. Something that violates team rules that would not have a reason to be made public. If they both failed tests, it makes sense that the punishment would be the same. I don't think this is new, and stemming from before Cam went to the Wellness Center. I think, like others have hypothesized, that the Wellness Center was a "choice" that cam had to make to remain a Cyclone. Having said all of this, I think that this is a steep punishment for someone who has "...done everything right" since the initial indiscretion.
One factor in this is the amount of money fans spend to go watch games. Think also about the fans who have spent a ton of money on going to Maui. The trip itself would be good enough for me if I was going, but I'd also be a bit annoyed that we're being handicapped by what seems to be ridiculously long suspensions with absolutely no reason given.
College basketball is big business. Fans spend big money to watch their team and it isn't just about watching them on the court, they want to see winning basketball. I mean, we're talking about 2 guys who are expected to be huge contributors being suspended for about 25% of the season.
Fault isn’t terribly relevant.
If a coach can win while suspending every scholarship player for jaywalking, suspend them all, but most will need to get players focused and productive enough to not miss games. Not an easy task, but that’s why not all coaches can handle major college basketball locker rooms.
Hopefully this turns into a successful motivation tactic, and not just a punitive move.
Fantastic response, loaded with succinct debating points.
I'd like to know what one would have to do to get suspended for 9 games without getting kicked off the team. Never witnessed such a thing.
Saying you would rather have the coach tell you why a player is suspended because you financially support the program instead of having him protect his players is dumb. Sorry but it is
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