1300 cameras in Dubuque? WTF? Do they have like two at every intersection?
Black Roadside Cameras
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I am equally concerned about innocent people being monitored by either.
I think the real concern comes with how they accumulate, store it and share it.
Automatic License Plate Readers (APLRs) in Iowa
Background on ALPRsALPRs are cameras mounted on stationary objects, patrol cars, and other objects. The high-speed cameras snap a photograph of every license plate that passes them, capturing information on up to thousands of cars per minute.
Most law enforcement vehicles have license plate scanners these days so if there is a stolen vehicle or someone with a warrant for their arrest it is crazy just how many times between that and traffic cameras that have the license plate scanning technology they can track down someone or even go back and find the last hit on that plate to get a general last know location to start looking. Technology like this is evolving so quickly that the laws around how they can be used or if it can be submitted as evidence in a case is not always black and white because the laws usually are not up to date enough with the pace of the technologies which creates some grey areas in law interpretation.
I guess if you are a law abiding citizen then the cameras shouldn't be of concern to you. But there is also a part of me that wonders how far do we push it until we consider it a privacy or rights issue. Anymore I just assume anywhere you go you are being recorded whether that is at a store or a public area or even private residences now days plus most people you come in contact with has a camera on their phone they can whip out and start recording at a moment's notice too. If you aren't doing anything illegal really don't have much to worry about unless some creep is recording you for other reasons.
I guess if you are a law abiding citizen then the cameras shouldn't be of concern to you. But there is also a part of me that wonders how far do we push it until we consider it a privacy or rights issue. Anymore I just assume anywhere you go you are being recorded whether that is at a store or a public area or even private residences now days plus most people you come in contact with has a camera on their phone they can whip out and start recording at a moment's notice too. If you aren't doing anything illegal really don't have much to worry about unless some creep is recording you for other reasons.
This is only true if the government is benevolent and law abiding.
Between facial ID, phones and cars (not just the license reader, all of the built in tracking) there is no such thing as being out and about without being tracked. Between rental car, cell phone, computer login and credit card use etc, "they" could put together a pretty detailed map of exactly where I've been by the hour over the last week. Other than the cell blind spot in Mandera Canyon. But that's a dead end and I would have had to hike out to not be trackable.
Now if they could tap into my Garmin they could tell when I was sleeping.
I think it's pretty widely understood and accepted that people shouldn't have an expectation of privacy when they're out and about in public. Also, they paid for, registered, accepted and installed the license plates on their car knowing they came from the government and were part of a database, it's not like someone didn't know what their purpose was.
I recently bought a truck private party in Polk County. Polk County requires an appointment for title transfers and the first appointments were 28 days out. I've been rocking no plate for like three weeks.
PS If anyone is in the same boat, I found out you can do the title transfers in any county you want so I'm heading to Adel.
Or not. Much long time gone ago I went to my car in the morning and found a ticket on it in St. Louis Park, MN. My tabs had expired at midnight. I was in an apartment complex in a stall pulled off the little loop street. Even though it was only looped around inside the complex it was technically a city street. Guess the cops just trolled that complex at midnight the last day of the month. What ********, this was sort of a low rent complex, not criminally seedy or anything just sort of rundown and lower class so they ticketed my rusty old Nova.
Yeah, it's pretty stupid because you get penalized at 30 days. We bought my wife's car online and I had to go down and do the title work and pay the sales tax but I waited a week to make the appointment not knowing they were 4 weeks out. We got hit with a penalty because of it.
Well you don't but I'm a Moorish Sovereign. I don't adhere to your corporate laws and I do not concent to being pulled over or doing commerce with the illegal American government as laid out in the maritime code.
Plus even your own constitution says I have the right to travel. I'm not engaged in commerce. I don't need a license or a licensed vehicle.
None of that makes it ethical or legalBetween facial ID, phones and cars (not just the license reader, all of the built in tracking) there is no such thing as being out and about without being tracked. Between rental car, cell phone, computer login and credit card use etc, "they" could put together a pretty detailed map of exactly where I've been by the hour over the last week. Other than the cell blind spot in Mandera Canyon. But that's a dead end and I would have had to hike out to not be trackable.
Now if they could tap into my Garmin they could tell when I was sleeping.
KidSilverhair
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Somewhat off-topic, but it does make me scratch my head when a photo on a social media post or Google Street View or whatever blurs out license plates.
They’re literally displayed in public for literally anyone to see. There’s zero expectation of privacy with a freaking license plate … why are they blurred out? I can’t figure that one out.
They’re literally displayed in public for literally anyone to see. There’s zero expectation of privacy with a freaking license plate … why are they blurred out? I can’t figure that one out.
KidSilverhair
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Litigation over what? You posted a picture of my license plate that’s literally on the outside of my vehicle for anyone to see?
(I know, I know, people sue for anything and no reason at all, but still … )
I was just out criming the other day. Naturally, I left my iPhone at home. Then I looked down and saw the watch on my wrist...
I mean, if it's a personal Facebook post whatever, but if you are a company like Google I 100% get it. It's stupid not to IMO.
Now in Minnesota they have made expired plates not a primary violation so the only way you can be ticketed for it is if you are pulled over for a different violation. This is part of the reason we see cars with expired tabs everywhere.
I was working very late in Hilton way back in the day. I went out to my car in the wee hours and got pulled over right out of the parking lot. My tags had expired and they waited for me to come out. I'm sure since I was leaving late they thought I had been drinking late post event and they could get me for OWI since they started off by asking me if I had been drinking. I hadn't been but I got a tags ticket anyway.
