Clearly based in the revenue numbers being floated about it’s not. Things will be different but things are a bit out of our hands.
Big XII to add schools within days?
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for now, maybe. Wait until this new big 12 tries to renew the tv rights.
Pretty sure they wouldn't be doing this if there weren't some assurances from TV partners as to a range of expected $ for next contract.
yes because one can definitely trust them. Also weren’t we hoping that we could leave this terrible conference in a few years?
This wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. Yes it would preclude ISU from getting into the B1G, but it would also mean that the new B12 could probably add the Arizona schools, Utah, and Colorado. Solidifies our position in that second tier even more.
CycloneErik
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I'm not quite jumping to this yet, but I'm not not jumping to this yet. I'm having trouble seeing the qualitative difference between this "expansion" and us leftovers joining the AAC.
I'd be more than a little surprised if there were any media execs making any kind of assurance as to what kind of $$$ they would be willing to pay out 3-4 years from now.
CycloneErik
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He should do the same analysis for the ACC and the Pac-12.
Basically a bunch of has-beens and never-weres save for Clemson right now.
we have people on here saying that "tv sets dont matter anymore" while also saying adding these" huge schools/tv markets will be great. the truth about how this ends up for ISU is 75% very very bad
You don’t think OuT’s early b12 exit isn’t being negotiated? I assume our media deal is all part of that negotiation.
i really dont even count the pac-12. they literally do not matter anymore. no one on the west coast cares. ACC has big brands with history and huge fans bases. left-over big12 just doesn't. smallish schools with lots of landmass and little population
$25 million per team is only Tier 1 and 2 rights. That is not the Total take for rights since it does not include NCAA money or Bowl Revenue or Tier 3. B1G and SEC totals include those. They have Conference Networks. I read we get $28 million now from Tier 1 and 2.
ACC has a deal through 2036. Screwed. PAC 12 has Pacific Time Zone. And poor performance on the field. B1G and SEC on another level. CBS is going to lose SEC package. And the Big 12 has a couple years to prove they are worthy as a Conference.
Compare the bottom half of the AAC to the bottom half of the Big12. Do you see a difference then? The AAC has a few good teams, but beyond those few the rest is garbage. The Big12 is going to lack a championship contender unless one of these teams takes a step up. But there are a lot of solid teams that will make for a competitive league.
While the expansion is not the #1 result that could have come from this, I'd probably put it at #2 competition wise. If the TV contract comes in similar or ahead of the PAC, then I'd say this is the best result short of a Big10 invite. Until those numbers are firmed up, I don't know that anyone can really say if this is good for ISU or not.
The "new" Big 12 has two teams in the top ten right now (Cinci and ISU).
I don't know how the #7 and #9 teams nationally in Week 2 aren't somehow playoff contenders.
Iowa State is *right now* assuming we can beat Oklahoma this time in Arlington.
