B1G/PAC 12 Partnership

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Could this be cover for potential changes to the BCS?

Maybe enough conferences are finally on-board with +1 that Delaney has to relent.

Preserving some kind of Big Ten-Pac tradition if the Rose Bowl's exclusivity to those conferences is about to be further watered down/eliminated.
 

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Ummm...you might want to take a peek at Iowa's schedule starting in 2013. The party will be over in Iowa City.

What are you talking about?

Iowa's 2013 schedule: Northern Illinois, ISU, W. Michigan, Missouri St

2014: UNI, ball state, ISU, Pitt

2015: IL St, Pitt, ISU, N. Texas

2016: ND State, ISU, Cent Mich

How are any of those harder than what Iowa has played the last decade including this year?
 

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I'd be really surprised if this doesn't eventually happen. I suppose the SEC could make an agreement with the ACC which would kinda leave the Big 12 with no one to partner with (I'd be a little surprised if the Big East existed as a football conference by 2017)

A few teams in the acc/sec already have annual OOC rivalry games. Not sure if that helps or hurts.

UF/FSU
UGA/GT
USC/Clemson

Am I forgetting any?

A B12/SEC agreement makes much more sense imho and would probably be what the networks would want considering the big time match-ups and recent bad-blood. Not sure if the conferences would agree to it though considering the added difficulty to the schedule for the top teams and how bad a single loss can screw your BCS/NC hopes with the current system.
 

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I'll bet a shiny nickel that the Big Ten goes to an 8 game conference schedule and the CyHawk game remains intact.
 

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The Hawk program is starting to fall apart much like DJK's pro prospects.

LOL, ok. Iowa had a couple ****-poor recruiting classes in 08 and 09 and now they're paying for it. But the program is not "starting to fall apart" by any means. Look at the recruiting class from 10, 11 and this year. A program that is "falling apart" does not attract talent like that. Iowa will have another down season next year, win 6-8 games and go to another crappy bowl game. In 2 years the Hawks will return to the upper half of the Big 10.
 

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A few teams in the acc/sec already have annual OOC rivalry games. Not sure if that helps or hurts.

UF/FSU
UGA/GT
USC/Clemson

Am I forgetting any?

A B12/SEC agreement makes much more sense imho and would probably be what the networks would want considering the big time match-ups and recent bad-blood. Not sure if the conferences would agree to it though considering the added difficulty to the schedule for the top teams and how bad a single loss can screw your BCS/NC hopes with the current system.

Plus, when the ACC and SEC both settle into a 14-team model having an on-going series between the two of them would make more sense than partnering with the Big 12. I for one look forward to our upcoming rivalry with the Big Coast-to-Coast or C-USA.
 

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What are you talking about?

Iowa's 2013 schedule: Northern Illinois, ISU, W. Michigan, Missouri St

2014: UNI, ball state, ISU, Pitt

2015: IL St, Pitt, ISU, N. Texas

2016: ND State, ISU, Cent Mich

How are any of those harder than what Iowa has played the last decade including this year?

Did I say anything about just the non conference schedule? I said look at the schedule...as in, the whole thing. Iowa picks up both Ohio State (after a year under Urban) and Wisconsin and has to play ISU in Ames and Nebraska in Lincoln. So yeah, Iowa's schedule is in for a significant up-tick. Do you not agree?
 

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Does this mean that by 2017 a Big 10 team will play 1 Pac-12 team every year, or 3 of them? The verbiage in the article is a little confusing.

If it's just one game/year, I'd love to see the Big 12 do this with the ACC.
 

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Congrats. Proud of you.
**** do you want to play ISU by 2017? Al Bundy may be getting some carries for you by that point. Oh wait he would probably get suspended or leave the team. Your program is on the decline in a big way, you may be a two win team by then.
 

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LOL, ok. Iowa had a couple ****-poor recruiting classes in 08 and 09 and now they're paying for it. But the program is not "starting to fall apart" by any means. Look at the recruiting class from 10, 11 and this year. A program that is "falling apart" does not attract talent like that. Iowa will have another down season next year, win 6-8 games and go to another crappy bowl game. In 2 years the Hawks will return to the upper half of the Big 10.

Upper half of the Big 10? Again, I'll refer you to your schedule for 2013. You are high if you think Iowa doesn't struggle to get to 7 wins with that schedule. And how was your classes in 08' and 09' any different than what you are getting now? You still had a good class rank in those years, right? You still had players with shiny stars and good offer lists in those years, right? But the classes in 10, 11 are different right?
 

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Iowa will struggle to win 5 games next season, the idiot Hawk fans can write that one down now.
 

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Does this mean that by 2017 a Big 10 team will play 1 Pac-12 team every year, or 3 of them? The verbiage in the article is a little confusing.

If it's just one game/year, I'd love to see the Big 12 do this with the ACC.

Each Big 10 team will play one Pac 12 team I believe.

Like another poster said, I think the SEC would be a better fit for the Big 12 due to location but I'm not sure if the SEC would ever go for something like this.

The ACC would be a nice consolation prize though.
 

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Upper half of the Big 10? Again, I'll refer you to your schedule for 2013. You are high if you think Iowa doesn't struggle to get to 7 wins with that schedule. And how was your classes in 08' and 09' any different than what you are getting now? You still had a good class rank in those years, right? You still had players with shiny stars and good offer lists in those years, right? But the classes in 10, 11 are different right?

Well, the '08 and '09 classes were duds, but the '10 and '11 classes will pan out to be AWESOME. Just you watch.

Reminds me of the Hawk fan I work with. Kept telling me all off-season how Iowa was going to be a 10 win team because A) their schedule was soft (he was right about that), B) Marcus Coker's back up, Rodney Coe would be a great change-of-pace (whoops), and C) because CJ Fiedorwicz (sp?) was going to be completely unstoppable (lulz).
 

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Each Big 10 team will play one Pac 12 team I believe.

Like another poster said, I think the SEC would be a better fit for the Big 12 due to location but I'm not sure if the SEC would ever go for something like this.

The ACC would be a nice consolation prize though.

The SEC would be a better fit, but as you noted, they wouldn't do it. Outside of a few schools (namely LSU) they seem to feast up on sh*tbags in the non-con, and rely on being the SECSECSEC to carry strength of schedule down the stretch.

The nice part about the ACC is that it would be a lot of wins for the Big 12.

Also, good to hear that the Big 10 would still have room for other non-con games. This sounds a lot like the Big 10/ACC basketball thing.
 

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Did I say anything about just the non conference schedule? I said look at the schedule...as in, the whole thing. Iowa picks up both Ohio State (after a year under Urban) and Wisconsin and has to play ISU in Ames and Nebraska in Lincoln. So yeah, Iowa's schedule is in for a significant up-tick. Do you not agree?

Uptick from this year? yeah. It's not a significant uptick from previous Iowa years though.

Check out Iowa's 2009 schedule and get back to me.
 

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So in the span of a couple weeks here is all that has happened in IC. Coker is suspended and being investigated for criminal charges according to the IC radio station, rumor of what he has done has already been posted on this site, he will not be back if this rumor is true. McCall has left the team and Colin Sleeper was sent home from the bowl game, who knows if he will be back. Team finishes 7-5 with one of the easiest schedules in the country. The backbone for Iowa the last 10 years announces his retirement. Did I miss anything?
 

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And how was your classes in 08' and 09' any different than what you are getting now?

Well, the 08/09 classes sucked. The staff made lots of reaches and had to steal commits from MAC schools because they struck out on most of their top targets. That hasn't been happening over the last 2-3 years. Iowa is landing many of their #1 targets. They just landed another stud DL who they've been on all season. It sounds like Quanzell Lambert is also going to pick Iowa over Nebraska. I don't care about stars, I care about offer lists. I want kids who are coveted by other top tier schools. Those are the kids of kids Iowa's been landing lately.
 

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The SEC would be a better fit, but as you noted, they wouldn't do it. Outside of a few schools (namely LSU) they seem to feast up on sh*tbags in the non-con, and rely on being the SECSECSEC to carry strength of schedule down the stretch.

The nice part about the ACC is that it would be a lot of wins for the Big 12.

Also, good to hear that the Big 10 would still have room for other non-con games. This sounds a lot like the Big 10/ACC basketball thing.

I think there's no chance in hell of the Big 10 going to 9 conference games for this very reason.

Doesn't the Big 12 and Pac 12 have a basketball challenge or did I just imagine it?
 

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