2022-2023 MBB computer projections thread

AuH2O

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Watson is way ahead of Ward imo.
I think it depends on if King or Billiew can guard a 5 consistently. If so, then agree Watson starts ahead of Ward. Billiew probably could, but I think he will be a terror defensively against wings and stretch 4 types. King is only 6’7 but he is rugged and physical.
 

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You are correct, but going to 2 out of 3 for the Final Four alone would add 4 or 5 games, and probably $150M. Moneymoneymoneymon-aaaaa!

It would be between three and six games -- three if all three matchups are 2-0, six of all were 2-1.

$150 million is $400,000 per college program (roughly).
 

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It would be between three and six games -- three if all three matchups are 2-0, six of all were 2-1.

$150 million is $400,000 per college program (roughly).
Yeah, I kind of hate the idea, but $400k would be a big deal to say, UNI or someone in the OVC...
 

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You are correct, but going to 2 out of 3 for the Final Four alone would add 4 or 5 games, and probably $150M. Moneymoneymoneymon-aaaaa!

Would definitely be an interesting concept.

I wouldn't want the series for the initial rounds, but I could see the benefit for the final 4.

Youd basically shift from having final 4 weekend to having "final 4 week" and "championship week"
 

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I see we're projected for 12-6 in the BigXII. Did we ever surpass that with Hoiberg? I think I remember a 12-6 year but can't remember if we ever did better than that during his tenure.

Edit: Decided to look it up. Never better than 12-6. Starting in 2010-11 they went 3-13 and then went 12-6, 11-7, 11-7, 12-6. Will be cool to see that level of success again if they can get there this year.
 
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It would be between three and six games -- three if all three matchups are 2-0, six of all were 2-1.

$150 million is $400,000 per college program (roughly).
I think ratings take a dive on a per game basis. Maybe it gets made up in volume. However, I think the interest in the entire tournament takes a dive. The randomness is what drives viewers, which in turn drives TV value.

When you look at ratings of regular season CBB vs. March Madness, it seems like they have pretty much optimized the value of the tournament.
 

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I think ratings take a dive on a per game basis. Maybe it gets made up in volume. However, I think the interest in the entire tournament takes a dive. The randomness is what drives viewers, which in turn drives TV value.

When you look at ratings of regular season CBB vs. March Madness, it seems like they have pretty much optimized the value of the tournament.

You could ask the same questions about some other changes made to the postseason in recent years (e.g., the NFL going from 12 to 14 playoff teams and the MLB adding teams). The NBA also went to Bo7 series in the first round even though that was Bo5 for a very long time to speed up that round. Does the additional content draw more eyeballs or just spread them thinner and "water down" the luster of the postseason? I'm sure some nerd probably did the same analysis for the CFP moving from four teams up to 12 here soon.

I don't know the obvious answer, of course, but a lot of postseasons are expanding as of late.
 

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I think ratings take a dive on a per game basis. Maybe it gets made up in volume. However, I think the interest in the entire tournament takes a dive. The randomness is what drives viewers, which in turn drives TV value.

When you look at ratings of regular season CBB vs. March Madness, it seems like they have pretty much optimized the value of the tournament.

Of course, ratings by round may be driven by different effects.

Chaos seems to drive the ratings of the first weekend, but as I recall as we go through the tourney it seems to tilt more towards having great games with the best teams advancing to the next round- the ratings sink when you end up with the chaos teams deep in the tournament. So at some level it may make sense to have some kind of series for advancement either starting in the F4 or E8
 

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Of course, ratings by round may be driven by different effects.

Chaos seems to drive the ratings of the first weekend, but as I recall as we go through the tourney it seems to tilt more towards having great games with the best teams advancing to the next round- the ratings sink when you end up with the chaos teams deep in the tournament. So at some level it may make sense to have some kind of series for advancement either starting in the F4 or E8
I could see that. I think a FF with 3 game series and leaving it one game prior to that would still be pretty awesome. Probably stretches the tourney out 2 weeks, which would be reasonable.

I think that's a good way to describe the tourney. The first 2-3 rounds is about the chaos, then it tends to settle into the big boy matchups mostly.

Not to mention, if two college teams played each three times in a week, that familiarity might breed lots of intensity.
 
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I could see that. I think a FF with 3 game series and leaving it one game prior to that would still be pretty awesome. Probably stretches the tourney out 2 weeks, which would be reasonable.

I think that's a good way to describe the tourney. The first 2-3 rounds is about the chaos, then it tends to settle into the big boy matchups mostly.

Not to mention, if two college teams played each three times in a week, that familiarity might breed lots of intensity.

Yeah, that's a nice balance of "madness" and intensity in the first two weekends before the Final Four becomes more about watching the best teams in college basketball play each other with the highest of honors at stake. Not sure it would ever happen, but I'd watch the heck out of those games.
 

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It's just laughable reading some of these crazed/angry fan posts.

After the OSU lost yesterday...nothing really changed.

NET is #10

KenPom is #12

BartTorvik is #9

Those numbers are really making these cliffdwellers gnash their teeth since they don't fall in line with their line of thought.
 

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