LOST: Dead is Dead
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Yeah, if they are going to bring back dead people, can we get more of the hot chicks back please?
Great episode though. Revealed quite a bit.
I don't think I am liking what I am seeing out of those 316 survivors, but it seems like they definitely know what they are doing.
Did the Other's leave the guns behind, confident that the plane-wreck survivors would only fight among themselves? I think that lady who captured Sayid and brought him on the plane will figure into an upcoming episode.
As always, lots of chewy tidbits to think over!
First off, thank you, producers and writers of LOST, for not killing off Ben. With the whole "Dead is Dead" episode title, and Ben confronting the "smoke monster" to be judged, well... I thought for sure that Ben was going to be offed. But there's more to that scene than meets the eye.
For a long time now, I've been contemplating the island's purpose for the ancient civilization that built its temples and statues on it. I theorized that it was a place that people were "brought" to in order to reconcile with their past experiences, be it to interact with a deceased loved one or a past trauma that they had to confront. As with a lot of the characters on the show, they have all had troubled pasts that they eventually atone for. This has become readily apparent by the reveal of the "judgement" room inside (or under?) the temple.
Ben's judgement reminded me of Eko's death in season 3. There he was confronted by the smoke monster, and after it had in effect "scanned" his past, his brother Yemi appeared in front of him. At first, Eko was overjoyed to see his dead brother, but soon realized that Yemi was not himself. Eko said he was not sorry for his past, which angered the smoke monster and beat the living daylight out of him.
Conversely, after Ben had been "scanned" by the monster, it disappears and his dead daughter Alex appears before him telling him to do whatever John Locke says to do. This isn't really Alex; it's the smoke monster, first appealing to his emotions, and then manipulating those to get its way.
Also, the producers said in a recent podcast in response to a fan question about the full reveal of the four-toed statue, Damon Lindelof said "Will we ever see the front of the statue? I think that we will -- well, actually, I think we'll get a pretty good idea of what the front of it looks like before the season is over."
The picture Ben saw just above smokey's vent? Anubis, the ancient egyptian god of the dead. From wikipedia:
I'll have to wait to get an image of the picture again, but it looked as if there was an image of the smoke monster delivering something to Anubis. So, while this island isn't purgatory, it may have appeared to be a purgatory-like location to the ancients who lived there or made use of the island. While Anubis may be a religious icon used to symbolize death, the smoke monster is part of the "real" world as it is according to Lost, and probably appeared to the ancient Egyptians that discovered the island that the smoke monster judged people and "delivered them to Anubis".
First off, thank you, producers and writers of LOST, for not killing off Ben. With the whole "Dead is Dead" episode title, and Ben confronting the "smoke monster" to be judged, well... I thought for sure that Ben was going to be offed. But there's more to that scene than meets the eye.
For a long time now, I've been contemplating the island's purpose for the ancient civilization that built its temples and statues on it. I theorized that it was a place that people were "brought" to in order to reconcile with their past experiences, be it to interact with a deceased loved one or a past trauma that they had to confront. As with a lot of the characters on the show, they have all had troubled pasts that they eventually atone for. This has become readily apparent by the reveal of the "judgement" room inside (or under?) the temple.
Ben's judgement reminded me of Eko's death in season 3. There he was confronted by the smoke monster, and after it had in effect "scanned" his past, his brother Yemi appeared in front of him. At first, Eko was overjoyed to see his dead brother, but soon realized that Yemi was not himself. Eko said he was not sorry for his past, which angered the smoke monster and beat the living daylight out of him.
Conversely, after Ben had been "scanned" by the monster, it disappears and his dead daughter Alex appears before him telling him to do whatever John Locke says to do. This isn't really Alex; it's the smoke monster, first appealing to his emotions, and then manipulating those to get its way.
Also, the producers said in a recent podcast in response to a fan question about the full reveal of the four-toed statue, Damon Lindelof said "Will we ever see the front of the statue? I think that we will -- well, actually, I think we'll get a pretty good idea of what the front of it looks like before the season is over."
The picture Ben saw just above smokey's vent? Anubis, the ancient egyptian god of the dead. From wikipedia:
I'll have to wait to get an image of the picture again, but it looked as if there was an image of the smoke monster delivering something to Anubis. So, while this island isn't purgatory, it may have appeared to be a purgatory-like location to the ancients who lived there or made use of the island. While Anubis may be a religious icon used to symbolize death, the smoke monster is part of the "real" world as it is according to Lost, and probably appeared to the ancient Egyptians that discovered the island that the smoke monster judged people and "delivered them to Anubis".
One thing that was very interesting is the fact that they made Ben's taking of Alex very sympathetic. It was Widmore who wanted her dead, and Ben took her in. There has to be more to this.
That was Lapidus, the pilot of the helicopter on the freighter last season. He just looks a little different without his beard.
this was one of my favorite episodes. I love Locke...and now, he has a swagger to him and I love that even more...total role reversal between he and Ben, and they certainly didnt have to even articulate it.
I think he might be, but I kind of hope he is dead. Although, the way those other crash survivors were acting with the guns, he may actually turn out to be a good guy.
And, I know this sounds morbid, but I was kind of hoping that Ben killed Penny. I guess since he waited because of the child, I should be happy.
"It's not a train Jon...it doesn't run on a schedule" (or something like that). I had a hard laugh when Ben said that to John talking about Smokey.
This episode gave us more proof that the island was around in ancient times. I still think that Richard is very, very old and was maybe around when the island "started" as he is the only one that doesn't age.
I love the Ben/Locke episodes, especially now since Locke knows what he is doing. Overall this was one of the stronger episodes of the season.
This episode gave us more proof that the island was around in ancient times. I still think that Richard is very, very old and was maybe around when the island "started" as he is the only one that doesn't age.
I love the Ben/Locke episodes, especially now since Locke knows what he is doing. Overall this was one of the stronger episodes of the season.
5 seconds after the shotgun went off I told my wife there is no way he is dead.
Lost isn't the kind of show to kill a guy off with the name CEASAR just for kicks. He is going to come back and drop the hammer on the other crash survivors.
So, is it fair to say that the smoke monster can turn into human form? If that is the case, then my mind wanders to old episodes were the dead reappear...
Is Christian the smoke monster too? Or, is Christian like Locke --killed off the island and re-born on the island. Maybe "dead is dead", if you die on the island, but not if you died off the island and are brought back.
Is Christian the smoke monster too? Or, is Christian like Locke --killed off the island and re-born on the island. Maybe "dead is dead", if you die on the island, but not if you died off the island and are brought back.
