LOST: Dead is Dead
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I'm pretty sure those with the crate are working for Widmore. He knew that Ben was going to go back to the island and sent them along.
I thought it was an outstanding episode. Probably because it was mainly about Ben and Locke. They are both such great characters.
Maybe Locke is smokey? We didn't see the 2 together...
That would explain the "Dead is Dead" comment.
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We saw the smoke monster pull Locke into the ground in an earlier epsiode (last season I believe). They were holding onto John and he looked at them and just calmly said "let me go" It pulled him under and he later emerged unscathed.
In season 1 Smokey tried to grab Locke as they were returning from the Black Rock. Last season Locke was with Ben when Smokey came after Keamy and his crew.
True, but he survived when Ben shot him. He regained the use of his legs. Jacob has spoken to him. There just seems to be too much of a connection between John and the island for him to be dead.
There have been alot of hints that someone or something was in the storage area with Lockes body. That it didnt come alone.
If anyone couldnt see it well.
Also http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Hieroglyphs
I never knew that the boarding pass for Ajira airways had glyphs on it meaning underworld.
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No one. I think people are just speculating that the monster has been manifesting itself as John ever since Ajira 316 crashed on the little island. If this is the case, perhaps the real Locke's body could be in the big metal crate?
But I agree that John has too much of a connection to the island to be dead. I don't think the smoke monster is impersonating him.
So am I to believe that the island wanted Alex dead, since Ben essentially killed her. Or was he saved to help John or maybe something else?
Is Desmond, Penny, and lil Charlie on their way to the island on the boat, since thats how he ended up on it the 1st time and how everyone has to make their way back.
Also what are the chances that when they return, they also get thrown back into the past, at a time where lil Charlie could either actually be Charles Widmore(kinda the kids real name) or Charlie the rock star. Maybe Penny isnt really CHarles daughter. Might be a stretch, but who knows with this show sometimes.
Is Desmond, Penny, and lil Charlie on their way to the island on the boat, since thats how he ended up on it the 1st time and how everyone has to make their way back.
Also what are the chances that when they return, they also get thrown back into the past, at a time where lil Charlie could either actually be Charles Widmore(kinda the kids real name) or Charlie the rock star. Maybe Penny isnt really CHarles daughter. Might be a stretch, but who knows with this show sometimes.
IMO, Desmond doesn't need to be on the island. He stumbled there several years before Oceanic 815 crashed.
1.) John Locke knows way more than anyone on the island thinks he does.
2.) Alex is hot.
3.) Ben Linus is a good person, proved by how much he cared for his daughter and was deemed worthy of living. Also, he forced Widmore to leave.
4.) Widmore is bad, which is why he hasn't come back to the island... he is scared of being judged.
5.) I stated after the first episode this season, on this site, that the island is some sort of purgatory and I still believe that.
6.) Richard Alpert will become the catalyst and I feel is the most important character on the island.
7.) Juliette is hot.
8.) Lapidus will play a bigger role than expected and will not leave the island.
9.) Ceasar is not dead.
10.) Every list of 9 things has to have a 10th.
2.) Alex is hot.
3.) Ben Linus is a good person, proved by how much he cared for his daughter and was deemed worthy of living. Also, he forced Widmore to leave.
4.) Widmore is bad, which is why he hasn't come back to the island... he is scared of being judged.
5.) I stated after the first episode this season, on this site, that the island is some sort of purgatory and I still believe that.
6.) Richard Alpert will become the catalyst and I feel is the most important character on the island.
7.) Juliette is hot.
8.) Lapidus will play a bigger role than expected and will not leave the island.
9.) Ceasar is not dead.
10.) Every list of 9 things has to have a 10th.
This just occurred to me...Didn't they find Christian's empty coffin? I suppose smokey could have moved the body, but I'm leaning more towards Christian and John are really alive.
I don't know. I think most of what Ben has done has shown him to be a bad person. He lies constantly, he's hungry for power, and he doesn't care what happens to anybody else but himself.
I think the one thing that Ben isn't is a killer. He wouldn't kill Alex when she was a baby. He didn't kill Danielle when he was supposed to. He didn't kill Penny after seeing little Charlie. He's had other people kill for him, but the only two people I can remember him having killed himself are Abbadon and Locke. We never actually saw him pull the trigger on Abbadon, so I think it's possible that maybe he didn't do that. And Locke, well...doesn't appear to be actually dead.
By the way, how old was Ben supposed to be when he was sent by Widmore to kill Danielle and Alex? He was 12-ish when Ethan was born. Ethan looked like he was about 12-14 when he and Ben went to kill them, so Ben would have to have been in his mid-twenties? I just found it funny because no matter what kind of toupee you put on him, Michael Emerson does not look like he's in his mid-twenties. :wink:
Ben also shot Ceaser in the chest. We don't yet know if Ben killed him, but the intent is the same.
Edit - Also, didn't Ben kill his dad directly when Dharma was wiped out? Also, even if he didn't kill them directly, you can't help but blame him for the entire Dharma purge.
Edit - Also, didn't Ben kill his dad directly when Dharma was wiped out? Also, even if he didn't kill them directly, you can't help but blame him for the entire Dharma purge.
True. I guess he also went all BA when those guys on horses came up on him in the desert just after he'd left the island. OK, maybe he's more of a killer than I thought. I was just typing as I was thinking.
Still, he seems to have at least a little bit of a heart in-so-much as he won't kill kids or mothers in front of their kids. He's a regular saint.
