Ross Dellenger report on SEC spring meetings

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I don’t think that you understand the rivalry. Iowa has always wanted an excuse to end it. This is it. And honestly, I wouldn’t blame them. No one wants to play 11 P4 games.

If Iowa ends it in football, I hope Jamie ends it in basketball as well. We don’t gain anything from a home and home with them. Go find a good P4 opponent that takes basketball seriously.
 
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If Iowa ends it in football, I hope Jamie ends it in basketball as well. We don’t gain anything from a home and home with them. Go find a good P4 opponent that takes basketball seriously.

If those conferences eject to their own league, I’d hope that everyone who is left quits playing them in everything. We’ll see how many people watch their games then. I can guarantee very few college sports fans will be “adopting” a b10 or sec team just because they’re at a higher level.
 

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If those conferences eject to their own league, I’d hope that everyone who is left quits playing them in everything. We’ll see how many people watch their games then. I can guarantee very few college sports fans will be “adopting” a b10 or sec team just because they’re at a higher level.

The latest Kickin It pod with Ari touched on this. The power brokers don’t understand why people have fandom to a certain team/school. And how deep that bond is.

Part of me hopes they do it just because it’s a hilarious misread of what your customers want.
 

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If those conferences eject to their own league, I’d hope that everyone who is left quits playing them in everything. We’ll see how many people watch their games then. I can guarantee very few college sports fans will be “adopting” a b10 or sec team just because they’re at a higher level.

I’m even saying if the SEC and Big10 start a scheduling agreement that prevents Iowa from continuing the home and home with us. That’s the more likely scenario at this time, as proposed by the SEC leaders.

If Iowa cancels the football series to get into an SEC scheduling agreement, that basketball series should also be on the chopping block.
 
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I’m even saying if the SEC and Big10 start a scheduling agreement that prevents Iowa from continuing the home and home with us. That’s the more likely scenario at this time, as proposed by the SEC leaders.

If Iowa cancels the football series to get into an SEC scheduling agreement, that basketball series should also be on the chopping block.
Exactly. People watch their nfl because it’s the nfl. Same rules do not apply to college ball. People aren’t going to watch nfl-lite other than the fans of those conferences. And no matter how many fans they have, we still greatly outnumber them. I’d have less interest watching that than I do with the battle hawks…and I watch that because of the ISU connection.
 

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So if the 4-4-2-2-1 format goes through, the Big 10 and SEC would each have 9 conference games and could do 3 non-conf games against each other. It'll be status quo for all their other sports. It is essentially breaking away from the NCAA without breaking away. Brilliant.
 
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So if the 4-4-2-2-1 format goes through, the Big 10 and SEC would each have 9 conference games and could do 3 non-conf games against each other. It'll be status quo for all their other sports. It is essentially breaking away from the NCAA without breaking away. Brilliant.

No way they do more than 1 conference game between them. They’ll still all play 2 patsies.

But, the scheduling agreement would essentially lock out their ability to play ND or anyone from the ACC or Big12. Although I wouldn’t be surprised if ND sets up an agreement to play the 2 extra Big10 teams every year.

But as bad as it seems for the ACC and Big10, it’s even worse for ND. It’s going to be hard to fill out that schedule if they are shut out from most of the Big10.
 

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No way they do more than 1 conference game between them. They’ll still all play 2 patsies.

But, the scheduling agreement would essentially lock out their ability to play ND or anyone from the ACC or Big12. Although I wouldn’t be surprised if ND sets up an agreement to play the 2 extra Big10 teams every year.

But as bad as it seems for the ACC and Big10, it’s even worse for ND. It’s going to be hard to fill out that schedule if they are shut out from most of the Big10.
ND will not get left out.
 
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No way they do more than 1 conference game between them. They’ll still all play 2 patsies.

But, the scheduling agreement would essentially lock out their ability to play ND or anyone from the ACC or Big12. Although I wouldn’t be surprised if ND sets up an agreement to play the 2 extra Big10 teams every year.

But as bad as it seems for the ACC and Big10, it’s even worse for ND. It’s going to be hard to fill out that schedule if they are shut out from most of the Big10.
1,2, or 3, essentially the same. Forms the super league and forces the big 12 and ACC to be happy with whatever crumbs fall their way.
 
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No way they do more than 1 conference game between them. They’ll still all play 2 patsies.

But, the scheduling agreement would essentially lock out their ability to play ND or anyone from the ACC or Big12. Although I wouldn’t be surprised if ND sets up an agreement to play the 2 extra Big10 teams every year.

But as bad as it seems for the ACC and Big10, it’s even worse for ND. It’s going to be hard to fill out that schedule if they are shut out from most of the Big10.
Notre Dame typically plays USC and 1 other Big 10 team per year. Notre Dame plays 0-1 SEC teams per year. Watch Notre Dame support the 4-4-2-2-1 format when the Big 10 and SEC ramrod it in next year followed by news of Notre Dame scheduling agreement with USC, another Big 10 team, and a SEC team.
 

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Notre Dame typically plays USC and 1 other Big 10 team per year. Notre Dame plays 0-1 SEC teams per year. Watch Notre Dame support the 4-4-2-2-1 format when the Big 10 and SEC ramrod it in next year followed by news of Notre Dame scheduling agreement with USC, another Big 10 team, and a SEC team.

But I’m saying that if they follow through on the SEC proposal to play 9 conference games + 1 Big10 vs SEC game, are they going to also want to play ND? Maybe with the 4-4-2-2-1 scheme they can still get one of those automatic spots even with a difficult non-conference schedule, but those at large spots become more difficult.
 
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But I’m saying that if they follow through on the SEC proposal to play 9 conference games + 1 Big10 vs SEC game, are they going to also want to play ND? Maybe with the 4-4-2-2-1 scheme they can still get one of those automatic spots even with a difficult non-conference schedule, but those at large spots become more difficult.

The B1G has two more teams than the SEC, so it would work out nicely for all 16 SEC to play 16 B1G, and ND play two B1G. ND already plays half an ACC schedule, and can fill out with others if no more B1G or SEC wants to add them to the schedule.
 
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But I’m saying that if they follow through on the SEC proposal to play 9 conference games + 1 Big10 vs SEC game, are they going to also want to play ND? Maybe with the 4-4-2-2-1 scheme they can still get one of those automatic spots even with a difficult non-conference schedule, but those at large spots become more difficult.
ND has already come out in favor of 5-11.
 
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The latest Kickin It pod with Ari touched on this. The power brokers don’t understand why people have fandom to a certain team/school. And how deep that bond is.

Part of me hopes they do it just because it’s a hilarious misread of what your customers want.

I’m sure they’re deluded into thinking people just want to watch “great football” and they can manufacture whatever they need to in terms of narratives to keep people interested. KC was an obscure franchise but add a bit of QB talent, an oaf like Kelce, and Taylor Swift and before you know it everybody is watching them love them or love to hate them it prints money Vegas here we go!

The problem is college football is not “great” football. The level of play is so much higher in the NFL it is almost comical. Watching the less than optimal college play is part of the charm. And I’m never going to care which pop star some SEC QB is dating. I want my Cyclones and their peers and don’t care about anybody else.

I already skipped the playoff one year after Arizona State went out. I’ll do it again.
 

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ND has already come out in favor of 5-11.
They have - this time around. When the 4-4-2-2-1 format comes up again next year, Notre Dame will be on board with it. I wouldn't be surprised if the Big 12 and ACC agreed with straight seeding to get Notre Dame's public support this year to fight on the 4-4-2-2-1 format as ND can get a bye with straight seeding.
 
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