Of course it's correct because it's the interpretation of what the ref considers is the cylinder. If they called it a foul on Cyer that would be correct too.
*** Official #8 IOWA STATE vs #5 Houston Game(Day) Thread ***
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He didn't crowd him, there was space when
Cryer had established his position and Heise his defensive position. Cryer then pivoted and took a large step with his non pivot foot into Heise. He is allowed to do that, but the pivot step does not establish a new expanded cylinder. Heise maintained his previously established legal guarding position. Cryer then swung the ball elbowing Heise in the jaw.
The replays people have posted prove this pretty clearly. The ref apologists are living in another dimension.
One idiot on here I think is claiming Heise isn't allowed that tiny tiny tiny shuffle of his feet, as if he's trying to take a charge in the lane and needs to stand there like a freaking statue.
We have some "special" people here.
You want to talk about whining? Pot meet kettle. Holy cow.
The calls you usually get upset about are called pretty consistently both was. There were one or two games where I specifically thought it got out of control, but the officials arent robots. They will miss one or 2 generally. But overall they make
The refs did not lose this game. a 9 minute scoring drought in the first half did this. Missing 2 starters did this. They lost to a team that was better TODAY because of unforeseen circumstances. Blaming officials is so weak.
Once he moves his feet, it resets the guarding position. It's really not hard to understand.
I think some people think he needs to stand there like a statue as if he's taking a charge in the lane.
He never moves into him, Cryer moves into Heise, he moves backward a tiny bit and shuffles his feet just slightly but defensive players are allowed to move their feet in this sport.
Good lord some of our fans would probably chop their own nuts off before admitting an obviously blown call is a blown call.
Agreed. Just saying ISU had their chances down 1 with 8 minutes left and down 2 with 4 minutes left. From that point forward, Houston took control of the game. So I can't say the refs cost us the game.
No it doesn't, cryer moves into him creating the contact to the face. Both players are allowed to move.
You don't know **** about basketball. Sometimes refs blow calls and you're not a "tough guy" on this, you're being a stupid contrarian.
I appear to have "AllinForISU" on my Ignore list, looks like I made a good choice.
I understand what you are saying. But when Heise readjusts, which he does right after the pivot, he also reset his guarding position. That is why in real time it was called an offensive foul, that is so hard to see as an official, but when reviewed they slow it down and make the call based on the letter of the law.
Personally though, I don't know why cylinder fouls can get reviewed at any time, but things like out of bounds can't.
LOL are we really doing this? Houston is a fantastic team. An ELITE team. A legit 1 seed contender. They steamrolled through the Big 12 in back to back seasons. They are the BEST defense in college basketball. No, factually, “plenty” of teams will not be able to match their defensive intensity, just like many won’t be able to match ours. Their offensive is ALSO great. Factually one of the most efficient. Better than ours. Them hitting step-backs and having multiple guards that can score in ANY way(and go off for 25+) is a feature, not a bug. We had Curtis Jones go nuclear against KU and ASU, and we maybe don’t win those games if he isn’t on fire. Guess what - that doesn’t mean our offense isn’t still really, really good.
And with all of that said - we gave them a damn good game today. Our defense was so damn good, even without 2 of our best guards, that the ONLY way they could beat us is if they shot lights out. And they did! Because they are really damn good. They didn’t just get lucky and shoot out of their ass when normally they are terrible. They are legit one of the best shooting teams in CBB.
I find the made shots far less frustrating than the weird cylindar call and the push off for the three soon after, or like in prior games with the weird turnovers that kept teams like Cinci and UCF around.
I'll add Cryer traveling to start the move that created his last "And 1" was a missed call.
