Ankeny Police Incompetent!

TarHeelHawk

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I dunno... I know I have wildly different views on this kind of thing than most people here, and that's fine. My only point all along is that in many localities police spend a disproportionate amount of effort busting crimes that result in a lot of damage. I grew up in an incredibly rural area. I'm not condoning drunk driving, but out there there just aren't that many cars to have an accident with. People drive drunk on a very regular basis, and most of them drive under 25mph on deserted roads. I'm not condoning it, I'm just saying. If you aren't used to that kind of thing, there is no way to convince you that it really isn't that dangerous, so I'm not going to try. That said, they aren't even focused on stopping drunk driving. They're just busting parties, when they could be busting Meth labs. Apparently 90% of people on this thread are of the opinion that the job of police is to enforce whatever law they can, regardless of the effect that particular criminal behavior has on society. Busting teen drinkers in BFE is of equal importance as stopping Meth production. Got it. They might crash into a deer. It deserves equal police attention as the meth lab next door which might explode, setting the house on fire killing the 4 malnourished, impoverished kids who can't even go to school because their parents are so cranked out. Of course. Stupid me.

No it isn't. 90% of the people in this thread have said - repeatedly - the police don't have the luxury to pick and choose what laws to enforce and which ones not to. They take an oath to uphold the law, no matter how "stupid" that law may be.

Drunk driving in Palo Alto county (to name a rural area) is just as much of a crime as it is in Polk county, just like cooking meth in Bondurant will get you busted just as easily as it would in Emmetsburg.
 

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Of course meth would be a higher priority, but by your logic everytime they bust up a kegger their losing a meth cooker. They can't just forget about laws being broken so they can focus everything on meth cookers. I'm guessing you are not a LEO there so to say that you know that they are diverting focus away from these more serious crimes isn't really fair, you have (i assume) no idea of the day to day workings going on there.

I knew someone who worked in the sherriff's office. It was known around the office that especially in summer months, stopping underage drinking was their #1 priority.
 

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I'm not saying meth should be their only priority. It should be their biggest priority. In many, many rural areas of this state, preventing underage drinking gets as much attention as meth. That is asinine...

From your posts it seems that underage drinking is as common as meth and meth labs. Seems to me, that makes underage drinking a problem.. hence the focused approach from law enforcement.

Also, that focused approach could be coming from parents (Voters) to help solve the problems with underage drinking that appear to be common in your rural area.

-keep
 

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No it isn't. 90% of the people in this thread have said - repeatedly - the police don't have the luxury to pick and choose what laws to enforce and which ones not to. They take an oath to uphold the law, no matter how "stupid" that law may be.

Drunk driving in Palo Alto county (to name a rural area) is just as much of a crime as it is in Polk county, just like cooking meth in Bondurant will get you busted just as easily as it would in Emmetsburg.

But it isn't as dangerous. Cooking meth IS just as dangerous in Bondurant as Emmetsburg.
 

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I knew someone who worked in the sherriff's office. It was known around the office that especially in summer months, stopping underage drinking was their #1 priority.

90% of underage drinkers and parties get busted for one reason, and that's because some neighbor calls the cops. Do you feel they should just ignore these calls?
 

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I didn't say teens drinking is equivilant to a meth lab, I'm just saying you can't ignore one crime to deal with another.

I'm not too familiar with how police do drug busts... but a lot of big stings take a long time to orgainze and work out, and you can't always rush that (if you are infiltrating a crime ring or doing survailliance on it)

Street patrols also probably provide leads on stuff like that as well. The police can't search a car without reason, so if you give them a reason (tinted windows, license plate, ect) they have to take advantage of that and hope to get lucky


The law is very much on the side of criminals in a lot of cases, the burden of proof is on the Police. So you bust them for being nit picky... but they are that way because the law makes them so.


The law makes them so so they can't arrest you for something you didn't actually do... so if you get busted for something you did do, cut them some slack
 

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From your posts it seems that underage drinking is as common as meth and meth labs. Seems to me, that makes underage drinking a problem.. hence the focused approach from law enforcement.

Also, that focused approach could be coming from parents (Voters) to help solve the problems with underage drinking that appear to be common in your rural area.

-keep

It is a problem. Here's the best analogy I can give: If you suffer from migraines, but then get diagnosed w/cancer, which should be your bigger concern? Some of these rural counties are more worried about the migraines (definitely a problem) than the cancer.
 

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But it isn't as dangerous. Cooking meth IS just as dangerous in Bondurant as Emmetsburg.

Maybe not, and I can see your point as I have family and friends that live up that way.

But you tell that to the family of someone killed by a drunk driver. I'd be willing to be it would seem dangerous to them.
 

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It is a problem. Here's the best analogy I can give: If you suffer from migraines, but then get diagnosed w/cancer, which should be your bigger concern? Some of these rural counties are more worried about the migraines (definitely a problem) than the cancer.

Migraines won't kill you, drunk driving could. Or kill someone else...


I know what you're saying about rural roads and not many cars being on them but that still doesn't change the fact that you're driving drunk.

I imagine on rural roads that presents other dangers... such as leaving the road and striking a tree, which will kill you just as well as a car will.

Thats actually a rather frequent story on the local news where I live... teenagers driving too fast and losing control of the vehicle, many times alcohol is involved.
 

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From someone who has gotten busted for drunk driving in high school, on a back road in the middle of nowhere, 3 miles from my house. I'm much more concerned about meth. Take that for what its worth.
 

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Maybe not, and I can see your point as I have family and friends that live up that way.

But you tell that to the family of someone killed by a drunk driver. I'd be willing to be it would seem dangerous to them.

I think you're catching on to my drift.

For the record, I've enjoyed this debate, and hopefully everyone else has. Not trying to personally attack anybody. I understand that my views in this area are definitely the minority, and are the result of the bizzare twists and turns of my life. If you haven't stood in my shoes, in regard to this kind of thing (and some here have) it would be hard to see it the same way I do. So (to quote Justice Scalia), I respectfully dissent...
 

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Migraines won't kill you, drunk driving could. Or kill someone else...


I know what you're saying about rural roads and not many cars being on them but that still doesn't change the fact that you're driving drunk.

I imagine on rural roads that presents other dangers... such as leaving the road and striking a tree, which will kill you just as well as a car will.

Thats actually a rather frequent story on the local news where I live... teenagers driving too fast and losing control of the vehicle, many times alcohol is involved.

Yeah, I know that happens in a lot of places. Like I said, my view is pretty skewed. Down to a person, every person I know that has ever driven drunk (self included) drives really slow.

The point about the migraines v. cancer was an attempt to compare the general social evil of drunk driving v. meth labs.
 

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Ankeny cops r great...i may be biased because i am going to become a cop and am hoping to be getting on as an Ankeny PD officer...onto u story, everything he did is illegal...so they rnt incompetent! lol! Sorry u break the law u will get punished. Also the officer put his hand on his gun because the guy was getting back in the car! The officer doesnt kno what hes getting...he may just be buckling his kids in but he could b reaching for a weapon too! U have to understand that police officers dont kno what the other persons intentions are and they dont know if they have a weapon so they have to protect themselves no matter in front of a school or out in the middle of no where! Its what you are taught so there is no reason y u should have uproar about him putting his hand on his gun...if u notice everytime an officer appproaches a car they will have there hand on there weapon just in case! You never kno and its better to b safe than sorry! Police officer have one of the most dangerous jobs in the world because they never know what there getting into or what the other persons intentions are! Ankeny Police officers r tough...they will right u tickets for everything but that is there job...to enforce the law...and he was breaking the law! Sorry but ur argument and your point are mute!
 

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this was an interesting post. I have a different perspective on this. My oldest son is a police sargeant in a college town and chooses to work the night shift, better to work drunk driver watch. He arrested 12 last month, including 3 2nd and 3rd timers and one with extensive accident history. I applaud his efforts.
His brother was pulled over last week, on his way to some late night partying. Seems I didn't get a headlight replaced for him. The stop was of course probable cause, and the car was searched. An empty vial was found in the glove box that at some point held a stash of pot. His or not, he took the blame, paid the fine and tow on the car. I also applaud the officer in this case for doing his job, but question his profiling a young 20 something who exhibited no signs of drug/alcohol use and took the opportunity to exert his authoity. That is what we pay him to do. We marvel at them when they find 10 pounds of cocaine on the interstate in this manner but curse them when it hits home. My point is, they do their job and overall Iowa is a safer place for it. Too bad they couldn't have been there ahead of the accident by Tiffin that killed 1, there was alcohol involved there.
 

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That's your reasoning? Because the drunk drivers you know drive really slow? Skewed doesn't even begin to describe it.

They are in the middle of ******* nowhere. I'm not condoning it, I'm just saying it isn't anywhere in the same ball park as meth, nor is it as dangerous as people think. THATS ALL. READ THE POST. I'm not advocating drunk driving.
 

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They are in the middle of ******* nowhere. I'm not condoning it, I'm just saying it isn't anywhere in the same ball park as meth, nor is it as dangerous as people think. THATS ALL. READ THE POST. I'm not advocating drunk driving.

Why exactly is cooking meth in the middle of ******* nowhere such a public hazard? After all, it's the middle of ******* nowhere.

Considering there were 900 meth related deaths in the US in 2006 and over 16000 alcohol related ones, I'd have to say the cops got this one right. Even in the middle of ******* nowwhere.

(which is a ******* stupid arguement)
 
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