*** Official #18 IOWA STATE vs #13 Miami Pop-Tarts Bowl Game(Day) Thread ***

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As far as I'm concerned this isn't ISU's biggest bowl win ever (that's still the Fiesta Bowl against Oregon)... but this was still by far ISU's most successful season ever with its second biggest bowl win.

Beating #13 Miami in Florida, yeah it feels great and is big.

Lots of debate if this year or 2020 is better season. We were definitely closer to winning the Big 12 CCG in 2020 and finished outright first place before title game. Big 12 was maybe a little stronger league that year, but not drastically so. Currently Sagarin has Big 12 just an eyelash below Big Ten and clearly above ACC top to bottom, so the conference didn't fall off the map. In 2020 the team was 9-3 and the two cancelled games were Iowa and an FCS team, decent chance that team has same 11-3 record with comparable or better wins had non conf games all been played. Breece would have probably been just under 2000 rushing yards with those two games, he was the best offensive player in college football imho.

I could go either way, definitely don't want to look down at 11 wins for a team that had never had 10.

I REALLY don't understand people who somehow think playing only 12 games instead of 13 or 14 and not playing in front of full crowds makes a season completely illegitimate, locally I think some of that comes from people who like to diminish ISU. I like that they can't do that as easily now that we have another comparable season. As an NBA fan it also baffles me people want to discount the bubble championship (and I hate the Lakers), they locked the best players in the world up to focus on absolutely nothing but basketball, how could that possibly make them worse at basketball? NCAA hoops 2020 obviously didn't even have a tournament which is much different.
 

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It's artificial. The aspect college football is ******. Used to love it over the NFL. It's gone. We beat the hurricanes yaa! Did they want to play like it meant something? No. Also we couldn't win a watered down b12. Goes back again and again to 21 season. Had the studs on offense, really good defense. O line sub par, coaching, suspect at best. Glad Campbell got his ten win season. Congrats

Maybe it's just time for you to stop watching altogether then.
 

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Even I am very happy for the team, staff, and fans, especially those that made the trip.

They showed up and earned it.

I love that CMC had a team ready to play a bowl game.

And it sounds like the OC called a really good game.

I hate the "exhibition" talk, and that the game doesn't matter.

You step on the field? It matters.

I guarantee every player for ISU at this game will remember going to Florida and beating Miami.

I loved seeing the celebration including the PopTart!
JoeFrog...turning a new leaf to start the new year?
 
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It's artificial. The aspect college football is ******. Used to love it over the NFL. It's gone. We beat the hurricanes yaa! Did they want to play like it meant something? No. Also we couldn't win a watered down b12. Goes back again and again to 21 season. Had the studs on offense, really good defense. O line sub par, coaching, suspect at best. Glad Campbell got his ten win season. Congrats
Now we know the "f" in "Bob f" must mean f***wad.
 

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The jealousy on the Hawkeye message board is hilarious with all the Cyclone bashing spewing from it. LOL
 

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One thing I don't think anybody has mentioned (and if they did, it should be mentioned again) is that this game was a vast improvement in the number of penalties ISU committed that influenced our game plan. I don't recall any procedure penalties and can't recall if we ever jumped offsides where it changed things up.
Winning in the margins.
Great point. Thought we played with great focus and discipline. Makes a huge difference when we probably aren’t as talented as our opponents (on paper anyway). Let them make the stupid mistake, not us. And more times than not, they will!
 

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Even I am very happy for the team, staff, and fans, especially those that made the trip.

They showed up and earned it.

I love that CMC had a team ready to play a bowl game.

And it sounds like the OC called a really good game.

I hate the "exhibition" talk, and that the game doesn't matter.

You step on the field? It matters.

I guarantee every player for ISU at this game will remember going to Florida and beating Miami.

I loved seeing the celebration including the PopTart!
Yeah. I have some significant doubts given your posting history and being in lockstep with LAClone. Time will tell.
 

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Per the 'Cam Ward not playing was the difference' deal.

There could be some real truth to that. Although imo it seemed like ISU started to slow him down quite a bit mid-2nd quarter and maybe were getting some things figured out. The Miami run game was still going to be the biggest problem.

Great players find a way and maybe he would have done that to end the game or something but it's not ISU's fault they didn't do it.

ISU not having key players was also a difference maker on their own end.
 
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It's artificial. The aspect college football is ******. Used to love it over the NFL. It's gone. We beat the hurricanes yaa! Did they want to play like it meant something? No. Also we couldn't win a watered down b12. Goes back again and again to 21 season. Had the studs on offense, really good defense. O line sub par, coaching, suspect at best. Glad Campbell got his ten win season. Congrats

I'll start here with the bolded part. If Miami didn't come out with the necessary focus or drive to win, guess what? That's on them, not us. I've never understood this impulse to blame the winning team if the losing team, for whatever reason, comes out slow or uninspired. It's total bullsh!t to do that, but it doesn't surprise me that you are indulging in it based on your bullsh!t posts.

As for the rest of it...if the 2021 underachieving season of 2021, you know, that happened three years ago, still has you so whiny and butthurt that you can't enjoy an 11-win season and a come from behind bowl victory against one of the bigger brand name teams in the sport then that is a YOU issue. Just YOU. Completely and exclusively YOU and only YOU.

And for you to then try and shame fans for feeling good about last night's game is beyond pathetic. Leave this site to real fans and GFY.
 
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Yea. His calf was probably down based on the replay but I have absolutely no idea how they determined he was short of the goal line when it happened. Had they called him short on the field I would agree it should be upheld. But don’t understand how they saw enough to overturn there. Was afraid we were going to get screwed at that point. Thankfully we scored anyway although it was too close for comfort.
The play just previous to that where they marked the receiver short of the first down, and then they apparently never looked at it (ABC definitely didn’t give us a replay) was also sketchy. And the final drive, the run by Hansen that looked like a TD but then they went to replay and marked it short … that was probably the correct call, but instead of marking the ball at the one-inch line (where it clearly was when Hansen was down) they put it an entire half-yard back from the goal line.

The Cyclones overcame, thank goodness, but those were strange replay sequences. Was this the same replay crew that took away Va Tech’s Hail Mary catch and ignored targeting at Cal?
 

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It's artificial. The aspect college football is ******. Used to love it over the NFL. It's gone. We beat the hurricanes yaa! Did they want to play like it meant something? No. Also we couldn't win a watered down b12. Goes back again and again to 21 season. Had the studs on offense, really good defense. O line sub par, coaching, suspect at best. Glad Campbell got his ten win season. Congrats
Watered down? Why don't we wait and see how the Texas ASU game goes and not just listen to the idiots on ESPN (Who all picked Miami to win). Certainly losing Oklahoma didn't water anything down, and I don't see the additions as being any lessor of teams than those who turned tail and left.

ISU got its first ten-win season ever, yet you take a slight at Campbell who has far exceeded any other coach at ISU. Maybe Bruce could have got there if he stayed, but no other coach has been even close, and I don't see any out there that could do as well at ISU.

Fixed the subpar O line coaching, that's what good coaches do. I think we are also on the way to having a very good Offensive Coordinator if we can get him to stick around. It took a really outstanding offensive effort to win a game in which the opposing team never punted.
 

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I heard zero mention of Porter or Verdon by the announcers. Not surprised though, they were clearly rooting for Miami.
Correct, nobody even talked about it. There is not one team in the country missing two NFL guys that was going to slow him down. If you think about it, we maybe had 4 starters left on defense in that game. Heacock had nobody left. What he did with that defense given the injury situation is incredible this year.
 

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