*** Official IOWA STATE vs #21 Iowa Game(Day) Thread ***

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He’s no Jim Zabel, that’s for sure. :)

(Zabel was the voice of my childhood, growing up in southeast Iowa … I remember listening to his morning sports score report on WHO every day before I got on the bus for school. But man, he overstayed his time as Hawkeye PBP man, he couldn‘t keep track of names or game situations the last couple of seasons.)
Exactly. Agree with you, loved his sports report before school every morning. Yep he overstayed.
 
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How about Mark Stoops? Making $9 million a year for Kentucky and is 15 and 13 over the last three seasons. Plus he’s lost something like 8 or 9 straight home sec games. Got blasted by South Carolina.
 

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Iowa will have 45-50 million more a year than K-State just off the media deal and I bet their football already brings in more and their Nike contract is probably a lot more. Iowa has the money to double K-State and probably double the NIL also if they wanted to. Rumor is it's where Klieman wants to eventually be.
You are comparing the two schools against one another, while you should be comparing them to how they stack up in their league. That is the difference, EIU has more money than KSU, that is not debatable, but how does that stack up against their peers in the league? EIU at best is the 8th best school in the league, Ohio St, Michigan, Penn St, Oregon, Washington, USC and UCLA are all ahead of them, while Wisconsin and Nebraska are tied. Now do the same with the B12, which schools are ahead of KSU? The money difference only becomes a factor if you do not have enough compared to your peers to compete, KSU has more than enough to compete in the B12. Which team has the better opportunity to make the playoff going forward on a yearly basis? EIU or KSU, that is easy, its KSU.

EIU playing games in the B10 west its them, without the B10 west and the four new schools that were added, now KSU is the better job in my opinion. Klieman is 56 years of age, freerents is not going to be leaving soon, will Klieman want to leave a job he has been at for a decade in his early 60's to take over a job at EIU? I really doubt he would, 10 years ago at 46 without a doubt, in another 5 years, just cannot see it.
 
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Makes you wonder if Kirk is out after this season. Brian is gone. A lot of seniors are gone. The cupcake schedule is gone. The landscape of college football has changed. They can probably still win 9-10 games this year, and he can go out crying and the Hawkeye fans can give him a proper send off.
Circumstances would say yes, but Capt. will make WonderWomen pay every cent of his contract after what she did to Jr. She can’t buy him out so I don’t see Kirk going anywhere.
 

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Did anybody see this yet?

Iowa drew up the exact same play Texas used to burn Iowa State last year. Same formation, same rollout, same pass patterns. But this time the Cyclone defense recognized it, reacted to it … and Porter got the huge pick that helped turn the game around.

Great analysis in this clip (it’s so weird to see Texas and Iowa running the exact same play).

 

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I sort of get what you are trying to argue but both ISU and Texas finished the regular season 7-5. Two meh teams. How is that better than a comeback win on the road, against your rival, 34 second drive with no timeouts and then drilling a 54 yarder?

It was the only ranked team ISU beat after some weird games with a young team and beating Texas no matter how good/bad they are trumps a whole bunch of things.

What if Iowa/ISU both end up 7-5 this year?

Still an epic win?
 

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It was the only ranked team ISU beat after some weird games with a young team and beating Texas no matter how good/bad they are trumps a whole bunch of things.

What if Iowa/ISU both end up 7-5 this year?

Still an epic win?
yes its still an epic win. is this really even a question?
 

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Did anybody see this yet?

Iowa drew up the exact same play Texas used to burn Iowa State last year. Same formation, same rollout, same pass patterns. But this time the Cyclone defense recognized it, reacted to it … and Porter got the huge pick that helped turn the game around.

Great analysis in this clip (it’s so weird to see Texas and Iowa running the exact same play).


The UT QB has the arm strength to make the throw without it hanging in the air, the EIU QB doesn't, allowing the ISU dback to undercut the route. If their guy had gotten more air under the throw and lead the TE it could have been a touchdown, he just doesn't have the arm strength to get it there on a line.
 

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The UT QB has the arm strength to make the throw without it hanging in the air, the EIU QB doesn't, allowing the ISU dback to undercut the route. If their guy had gotten more air under the throw and lead the TE it could have been a touchdown, he just doesn't have the arm strength to get it there on a line.
Good catch by Hassel. Look at the difference in what the two o lines do.


Texas OL allowed the d line to get up field, almost as if it was a screen, giving the Texas TE space to clear faster. It almost looks like the Iowa OL blocking like it was a run kept our D Line engaged which muddled up Lachey and slowed his release.

Good stuff.
 
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The UT QB has the arm strength to make the throw without it hanging in the air, the EIU QB doesn't, allowing the ISU dback to undercut the route. If their guy had gotten more air under the throw and lead the TE it could have been a touchdown, he just doesn't have the arm strength to get it there on a line.
Yes - but the UT player was so wide open it would had been a completion even with McNamara throwing the ball. It may not had lead to a TD, but it would had been a nice gain.

Porter made a GREAT read on the play and sniffed it out.
 

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Darien is a very intriguing player. I feel a lot better about his position after watching him play the first 2 games. He's a player I'm going to keep an eye on. He has the ability to make some plays.

Also, how do we feel about the LB position now? I'm quite impressed with Ebel and Brezina. Depth has taken a big hit there for sure, but those two appear to be very good young players!
The silver lining, looking down the road just a little bit, is that our LB position is going to be stacked.
 

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The silver lining, looking down the road just a little bit, is that our LB position is going to be stacked.

I'll wait for an actual replay but as the game went on it seemed like the young guys had some moments where they got past the thinking and just playing ball level and would suggest that we're looking at some very nice ability there.
 
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I think both are true here. If ISU had a 13-0 lead and a 19-7 lead in this game, we’d be saying we blew it. At the same time, ISU could have laid down, instead they played like the absolute better team in the 2nd half
 
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