Bridge Collapses in Baltimore

madguy30

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For sure. The GG bridge on windy day is like standing on a boat. Go up in a high-rise on windy day and you can feel the movement.

The East Dubuque bridge is also single lane/very narrow iirc which added to feeling a little weird about it.

The one connecting WI is wider and doesn't have the same design or sway.
 

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There was a brief story on Inside Edition (my wife loves 'junk food news') about how those don't break windows like they used to - iirc the context was Mitch McConnell's SIL ending up in that lake in her Tesla.

well if I read correctly, that lady was real drunk but point taken
 
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Here in Savannah it's mandatory that cargo ships heave an escort team of tugs accompany them the length of the river and one of the largest reasons is to minimize issues from a loss of power.

It's mind blowing to me that other ports don't follow the same protocol. Granted, the Baltimore port looks to be quite a bit wider and easier to navigate (assuming the channel is also wider, anyway) but I would have expected ships would at least be accompanied past vulnerable man-made structures like the bridge.
Will be interesting to see if this event speeds up the replacement or tightening of the Talmadge bridge. I’m sure that’s still a few years away, and it will be a logistical nightmare for anyone commuting across the river while work is in progress.
 

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How many of those are on dead end roads connecting farmers to their fields?
Bingo. Anyhting longer than 20' crossing a waterway gets classified as a bridge. There's a reason 3,000 of the 4,500 are labeled "Rural Local Road". "Stream Crossing Field Entrance" doesn't have the same effect.
 

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Will be interesting to see if this event speeds up the replacement or tightening of the Talmadge bridge. I’m sure that’s still a few years away, and it will be a logistical nightmare for anyone commuting across the river while work is in progress.
The GDOT awarded a contract to raise the center span by 20 feet in January. Work is slated to begin next year and supposedly traffic will be able to continue over the bridge throughout the process. I'm super interested in watching the process play out.

As an aside, I'm fascinated by Savannah's unyielding desire to become the largest port on the Eastern seaboard.
 

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There was a brief story on Inside Edition (my wife loves 'junk food news') about how those don't break windows like they used to - iirc the context was Mitch McConnell's SIL ending up in that lake in her Tesla.
 

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I’m going to wildly speculate that they don’t have the tug resources at 1am. Or the they just don’t do it in the first place. Which will now probably change, but too late.

A single tug might not even budge a huge container ship once it was in motion.
 
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The GDOT awarded a contract to raise the center span by 20 feet in January. Work is slated to begin next year and supposedly traffic will be able to continue over the bridge throughout the process. I'm super interested in watching the process play out.

As an aside, I'm fascinated by Savannah's unyielding desire to become the largest port on the Eastern seaboard.
That will be fascinating to see indeed. On a lighter note, that raising might make the Bridge Run that much more challenging too.

Big picture after this event, I expect Baltimore’s port will still take ships regularly. But this will undoubtedly impact truck traffic through the Chesapeake corridor.

Will that result in more ships to Savannah? Will those trailers end up on 16/95? It’s all fascinating how this connects in the supply chain.
 

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The mile long bridge makes me tense up every time. Really narrow with zero shoulder, relatively high speeds, short guardrail and gusty crosswinds.
Interstate 80 over the Mississippi makes me tense up. And no thank you when I drove the RV over it ... sitting way to high up to see high up we are...
 
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That will be fascinating to see indeed. On a lighter note, that raising might make the Bridge Run that much more challenging too.

Big picture after this event, I expect Baltimore’s port will still take ships regularly. But this will undoubtedly impact truck traffic through the Chesapeake corridor.

Will that result in more ships to Savannah? Will those trailers end up on 16/95? It’s all fascinating how this connects in the supply chain.
I would imagine Savannah will try to capture as much of this sudden demand as they can handle.

The port recently started work on tearing up the old Roll-on/Roll-off lots to convert the portion of the port nearest the bridge into container traffic.

Brunswick, just south of Savannah, is greatly expanding their RoRo capacity so pretty much all of that is heading there now while Savannah focuses on containers.

They're currently expanding I-16 to help handle the planned growth, but I would imagine a lot of it will be handled via rail, too.

It'll be interesting to watch play out.
 
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