CycloneErik
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Listening to the postgame interview. Gilbert says they get a little lackadaisical sometimes on defense. Well, I hope we clear that up.
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So you are smarter than Heacock and now TJ. Got it.
Man. He's stating simple facts. No need ro get all offended. The only possible logical position is whatever he thinks.
So his opinions are therefore transformed into simple, unassailable facts.
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CycloneErik
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Also, we had stuff going on, so I didn't pay a ton of attention during the second half. Still, I didn't notice a ton of threes, so we'll struggle to score forever, and Hilton sounded really quiet with the TV muted. There won't by any Magic if the fans are muted.
To be fair he is longer tenured on CF than either coach has been here
Add Cyclonevet to the list of posters with comprehension issues.
I never said Jones shouldn't play or that he doesn't have value. Over these first 3 games his offensive efficiency has been atrocious. He's routinely forced bad shots and has launched a ton of wreckless 3s. The last 3 he took was a great shot but that was the exception. I don't see how this is debatable or why/how people like yourself take issue with that statement.
Will Jones improve his shooting percentage, which I think will be directly correlated to his shot selection? Time will tell. But I will say and promise you this: if he has the same approach against better competition it is LIKELY his results will be worse than they have been against the powder puff competition of the last week.
This year we don't want somebody jacking up stupid shots. Why? We don't need to and we have 4 guys who have already shown they are more likely to be infinitely more efficient players than Jones. Buckets, Gilbert, Lipsey, and maybe King are the guys you want taking 10 shots a game. Why? They are likely better shots and that will maximize our possessions.
There is nothing worse than a guy playing Jalen Rose basketball, jacking up a plethora of ******* garbage to get his points. Every team is better when guys play within their abilities and what benefits the team. CJones leading the team in shots and shots per minute is a poor utilization of possessions. It's that simple.
I am sad to say that I did not. The artist is Mike McInnerney.
No Ball Hogs - Mike McInnerney
mikemcinnerney.com
You may want to read up on TJ's post-game comments about C. Jones.
What does TJ really know? I've done my own research by reading game threads.
I've fully bought into analytics by reading ZRF's posts. TJ should do the same.
Lmao. Citing positive "coach speak" as a way to say 'these individual thoughts are wrong' is laughable.
The hilariousness in all of this is its stems from me commenting on Jones' shot selection and offensive performance, something that can be proven with tape and associated stats. I said nothing of his effort, defensive performance, or that I even had a problem with his playing time. He's had some really BAD shot selection and it's figured prominently in his overall shooting and 3 point shooting performance.
Yesterday Ward was 3 of 7 from the field. Want to know why he was 3 of 7? He took 3 shots he had no business taking and that are completely outside his skill set. If he sticks to what works he will be a 60+ percent "shooter" (as most will be dunks, put backs, or lay ins). If he takes some of the shots he did yesterday he will be a sub 50 guy. I guarantee you, regardless of the positive BS Otz says in his presser, the same will apply to C Jones.
The only person who should have a complete shooting green light is Buckets. Milan is the best pure shooter in Iowa State's history, far superior to Jones could ever dream of being (not a slight on Jones). I really haven't seen him take a "bad shot", at least one he hasn't already proven he can consistently make. C Jones on the other hand has about a 50% bad shot rate. And guess what? His stats bear that out.
Someone can copy this and save it for later if they want (since I know for a fact there are people who get off on doing this ****) but I guarantee, if Jones continues to make bad decisions AND lead the team in shots it will cost us games. NOBODY should be green lit to take poor shots (rushed, beyond range, outside of skill set). When doing so it lessens any player's value to the team and wastes possessions. BRE taking a bunch of time, in traffic, and putting the ball on the floor? Not good. Hasan taking wild shots 10 feet from the bucket? Not good. C Jones forcing 25 foot out of rhythm 3s? Not good.
We've never had a guy that can shoot unguardable fade aways and rain 3s like there is no tomorrow. We've had guys like Hoiberg, Willoughby, McGee, Long, Thomas, etc that could hit the 3. But nobody that even comes close to approaching what Buckets can do.
Normally it would be ridiculous but I feel confident he is easily the best shooter to ever play at this school. I don't even think it's close.
Nice job giving credit, but it was still a good find and share!I am sad to say that I did not. The artist is Mike McInnerney.
No Ball Hogs - Mike McInnerney
From the CW article:
CURTIS JONES: Buffalo transfer Curtis Jones was a bright spot on Sunday. The shooting guard shot 24 percent from the field in his first two games as a Cyclone. Jones played 28 minutes, went 5-for-11 and scored 14 in the win.
“The first two games I felt a little rushed,” Curtis Jones said. Watching film and going through practice, I have gotten reps every day. Today I knocked down some shots and it felt good.”
Otzelberger said that Curtis has a constant green light from the coaching staff when he enters the game.
“He is a prolific offensive player. He can really knock down shots,” Otzelberger said. “He has been sound with the basketball. He’s somebody who we need to get into a rhythm at all times, especially coming off the bench – a guy who averaged 15 a game last year at Buffalo. What I saw today was more him relaxing and shooting the ball. I still think he is thinking about it more than what we would like. We just want him to let it rip. We tell him that he’s like Steph Curry when he gets in there. Just keep coming off. Stay aggressive and hunt that shot. That really helps our offense. I thought he did a better job of that today but I k now he has a level above that we will see this season."
CURTIS JONES: Buffalo transfer Curtis Jones was a bright spot on Sunday. The shooting guard shot 24 percent from the field in his first two games as a Cyclone. Jones played 28 minutes, went 5-for-11 and scored 14 in the win.
“The first two games I felt a little rushed,” Curtis Jones said. Watching film and going through practice, I have gotten reps every day. Today I knocked down some shots and it felt good.”
Otzelberger said that Curtis has a constant green light from the coaching staff when he enters the game.
“He is a prolific offensive player. He can really knock down shots,” Otzelberger said. “He has been sound with the basketball. He’s somebody who we need to get into a rhythm at all times, especially coming off the bench – a guy who averaged 15 a game last year at Buffalo. What I saw today was more him relaxing and shooting the ball. I still think he is thinking about it more than what we would like. We just want him to let it rip. We tell him that he’s like Steph Curry when he gets in there. Just keep coming off. Stay aggressive and hunt that shot. That really helps our offense. I thought he did a better job of that today but I k now he has a level above that we will see this season."
