Huggins might be in trouble, DUI is good, Bees are bad

[bos]

Many people are blowing it off.

That's my point...It was never acceptable, even though it was part of the lexicon and used often in pop culture.

It was normalized because it was ok to use hate speech. There were no consequences, and it was seen as "cool" to make fun of people for not being straight or not being masculine.

Its not cool to make fun of people about anything personal to them. I dont know if its a remnant from a tribal past or what, but it IS getting better as time progresses. People are evolving to be more understanding of things that are different from them. We can't erase the past, but we can learn from it. Its not a switch that can just be flipped though.

 

[cycloner29]

I didn't know that. I am sorry for your loss and to read that. Must have been/has to be tough still.

I think about it every so often. The worst part was that I found him and I live with that memory almost everyday. I'm the only one that knows where it happened at and that's something I won't share, not even with my siblings. It made a friend of ours cry the other night as we were out for Cinco De Mayo and she brought up what age you would like to relive again to our group. It came around to me and I gave here the reason why and she felt so bad.

Never had time to digest everything as I was thrust into taking over the farm overnight, I wasn't ready to jump in at 17 years old to do this kind a thing. My mom probably said it best, "I don't want you to feel obligated to take over, I want you to live your life for you." I went to ISU that fall and here I am today some 40 years later.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

I guess it's just my experience but my Ex had a gay best friend and they all used that word casually and would just roll their eyes at this. This was Florida though so...

 

[JP4CY]

I think about it every so often. The worst part was that I found him and I live with that memory almost everyday. I'm the only one that knows where it happened at and that's something I won't share, not even with my siblings. It made a friend of ours cry the other night as we were out for Cinco De Mayo and she brought up what age you would like to relive again to our group. It came around to me and I gave here the reason why and she felt so bad.

Never had time to digest everything as I was thrust into taking over the farm overnight, I wasn't ready to jump in at 17 years old to do this kind a thing. My mom probably said it best, "I don't want you to feel obligated to take over, I want you to live your life for you." I went to ISU that fall and here I am today some 40 years later.

While nothing similar, I lost a child at an early birth in IA City. You know as well as anyone, there's no getting over it, and it strikes you out of nowhere. As it struck me now, I googled the Angel of Hope statue in one of their parks to see what she looks like (again). Just one of those random things I do.

 

[WhatchaGonnaDo]

A west virginia website reached out to college basketball commentators to get their thoughts. I thought that Bilas, DeCourcy, and Wolken had good points. Gottleib was an idiot like always, and I also don't really agree with Goodman's take. We all know that apology wasn't written by Huggins, and I doubt that he even felt the need to apologize (at least at that point). It's much more likely that West Virginia came to him and told him that he needed to sign the apology, they would be doing an investigation and would consider whether he signed the apology or not as part of that.

I also think the apology was fine, but it could have been better. He "apologizes" to the people that he hurt, but it was a pretty targeted statement. He should apologize to the groups specifically, most importantly members of the LGBT community, but also Catholics. Also, there can be a difference between an explanation and an excuse. He used the word twice in under 5 seconds. It wasn't a mistake. So why did he use it

Dude showed zero recognition that he wasn't supposed to say it in the moment. He said it so openly and freely. You know that's actually a deeply held belief of his.

Also, bigotry toward one group usually means bigotry toward multiple groups.

 

[WhatchaGonnaDo]

Its not cool to make fun of people about anything personal to them. I dont know if its a remnant from a tribal past or what, but it IS getting better as time progresses. People are evolving to be more understanding of things that are different from them. We can't erase the past, but we can learn from it. Its not a switch that can just be flipped though.

Don't act like it's hard to just stop using a word

 

[bos]

Don't act like it's hard to just stop using a word

Am I using it? Not sure why you are on defense here. Not everything is a nail. Most people grow out of it and mature with a better sense of the community around them. Others it takes a lot longer. Could be environmental, insecurity, etc.

 

[WhatchaGonnaDo]

Am I using it? Not sure why you are on defense here. Not everything is a nail. Most people grow out of it and mature with a better sense of the community around them. Others it takes a lot longer. Could be environmental, insecurity, etc.

"It's not a switch that can be flipped"

Yes, it really is that easy.

Don't give people an excuse. It's not hard to stop using a word.

 

[Clonefan32]

Don't act like it's hard to just stop using a word

This is exactly how I feel about it. It's really not hard to just strike a word from your vocabulary.

There's a certain word that was used very commonly when I was younger that is disparaging to people with intellectual disabilities. My wife's family did respite care for intellectually disabled individuals and when we first started dating in high school I made the mistake of using that word in front of her. She chewed my *** and I haven't used it again in 18 years. It's really not that hard.

 

[bos]

"It's not a switch that can be flipped"

Yes, it really is that easy.

Don't give people an excuse. It's not hard to stop using a word.

Use a word long enough it becomes 2nd nature. You sometimes have to recondition yourself. It can be THAT hard. Folks may choose not to and they are just a-holes.

 

[dahliaclone]

I guess it's just my experience but my Ex had a gay best friend and they all used that word casually and would just roll their eyes at this. This was Florida though so...

yeah that isn't how the entire community would react...just rolling our eyes.

 

[Clonefan32]

Use a word long enough it becomes 2nd nature. You sometimes have to recondition yourself. It can be THAT hard. Folks may choose not to and they are just a-holes.

This just totally discounts that Huggins has been a public figure for the last 3 decades. He was on the damn radio. He knows how interviews work, he knows what is public. It's not as though this was some secretly recorded conversation between him and his buddies.

 

[bos]

This just totally discounts that Huggins has been a public figure for the last 3 decades. He was on the damn radio. He knows how interviews work, he knows what is public. It's not as though this was some secretly recorded conversation between him and his buddies.

Doesnt discount anything. Who is defending what he did? He absolutely shouldnt have done it and shouldnt ever do it.

 

[CloniesForLife]

This just totally discounts that Huggins has been a public figure for the last 3 decades. He was on the damn radio. He knows how interviews work, he knows what is public. It's not as though this was some secretly recorded conversation between him and his buddies.

It's also not like it slipped out and he was immediately regretful and apologized. He said it clearly twice

 

[dahliaclone]

This just totally discounts that Huggins has been a public figure for the last 3 decades. He was on the damn radio. He knows how interviews work, he knows what is public. It's not as though this was some secretly recorded conversation between him and his buddies.

yep...

Huggins has been speaking publicly for what...40 years? He flat out knows it's not ok to use that word, so why did he use the word twice on live radio? It wasn't a mistake...he said it twice. It was intentional.

 

[fsanford]

It's the state of WV nothing is going to happen to Huggy over those comments

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

yeah that isn't how the entire community would react...just rolling our eyes.

Like I said just my experience. Not trying to speak for everyone.

 

[dahliaclone]

Like I said just my experience. Not trying to speak for everyone.

Honestly not sure how reactions would be but I asked a bunch of my friends what their thoughts were. Didn't give any indication that he apologized or if he's in trouble...just shared the audio and asked for thoughts.

Common reaction was along the lines of 'Not good. will he get in trouble? guessing not.'

Several 'it's really bad but who is shocked by this in sports'

One 'who the **** is Bob Huggins?'

 

[bos]

Heh heh, Bog Huggins. That should stick. I like that one.

 

[cycloner29]

Knew a guy that we called him the "F-man" Every other word out of his mouth was F*ck". He didn't say it because he was mad. It was just his nature. After awhile you got used to it. Great guy but he just never realized how it could rub people the wrong way.