What is the bare minimum expectation for next season?

[jsb]

No, it isnt.

Any year a program misses an NCAA tournament, would be comparable to an average corporate employee being given a 'needs improvement' or put on a performance improvement plan in their end of year review. They did not meet the expectations of their job and are on notice that that needs to change. That doesnt mean that every employee that gets a "needs improvement" gets fired immediately. Employees don't always meet the company's goals every year. But if an employee gets "needs improvement" 2 years in a row or 3\4, that's a different situation and theyre more likely to be gone, especially when that employee is making millions. .

You didn't answer my question.

 

[superiorcyclone]

I would like to get this established now. Where Steve Prohm is concerned, we have a tendency to "define mediocrity downwards". By that I mean, if 8 years ago I would have told the Cyclone fan base that we would have a coach who would have a 13-win season and a 10-win season and still be retained, they would have been absolutely shocked. Yet now that it has actually happened, many are actually in favor of the retention.

I would like to know what the floor is for next season. If we wait until next season to define it, I think it will get lowered and lowered and lowered to the point where there is virtually no floor at all, for the sake of retaining him no matter what.

This year is close to last in the Big 12 so expect next years minimum to be last in the Big 12.

 

[alarson]

You didn't answer my question.

Because your question was asked in ignorance, so i had to spend an entire post explaining to you what 'expectations' actually means.

 

[DeereClone]

I legitimately don’t have any expectations for next year. We are going to be bad...really bad.

The trajectory of the program isn’t good.

 

[Macloney]

Instant fix is for ISU Men's Basketball to become an Adidas school.

It could be the only way.

 

[simply1]

I still prefer to see how the season plays out . It’s February, save it for June or something.

 

[johnnydugouts]

Johnny was 40 games under .500 in conference and has a statue. Why would Prohm get fired?

 

[CTTB78]

Johnny was 40 games under .500 in conference and has a statue. Why would Prohm get fired?

If Johnny walked into Ames with a squad full of professional players, we'd have a national championship banner hanging in Hilton.

 

[madguy30]

Johnny was 40 games under .500 in conference and has a statue. Why would Prohm get fired?

Reported.

 

[bostrem00]

Johnny was 40 games under .500 in conference and has a statue. Why would Prohm get fired?

Do you not see any difference from where Johnny and Steve took hold of the program?

 

[CloneIce]

If we keep Prohm after this season, he needs to be in the tournament next year to keep his job. If it is a new coach, and I hope it is, then he’ll get leeway to rebuild.

 

[BryceC]

And I’m sure that if we win 20 games you’ll be here telling us he should be fired. It goes both ways. I’m biased for him and you’re biased against him.

I'm biased for winning. He does that I'm perfectly happy with him. I don't particularly care who is in the driver's seat. I think everybody on this board would at least have to admit that it's best for everybody if he starts winning next year right away.

 

[BryceC]

Johnny was 40 games under .500 in conference and has a statue. Why would Prohm get fired?

Seriously, at least try to be a better troll. It's just sad.

 

[BryceC]

What non blue blood teams make the NCAA tournament every year? Unless you are Kansas, Duke, and Kentucky an expectation of making the tournament every year is unrealistic and foolish.

On the flipside, what programs that don't suck don't make the tourney 3 of 4 years and retain the coach?

 

[CloneIce]

On the flipside, what programs that don't suck don't make the tourney 3 of 4 years and retain the coach?

Especially given the strength of the program and returning players he inherited

 

[CYEATHAWK]

On the flipside, what programs that don't suck don't make the tourney 3 of 4 years and retain the coach?

Probably because he made it the last 3 of 4.

 

[Al_4_State]

My minimum expectation is that the idiots who can’t see any further than the current W/L record will continue to be idiots. In other words, I don’t expect much out of them.

I would say the same of the idiots who think this trend is acceptable.

 

[CYEATHAWK]

I would say the same of the idiots who think this trend is acceptable.

What "trend"? Last year doesn't count?

 

[Cyched]

15 wins is the minimum. Duke, for example, has 37 wins. And a terrific smile

 

[CYEATHAWK]

15 wins is the minimum. Duke, for example, has 37 wins. And a terrific smile

I would like to see a few more. Even if TH doesn't return there is enough coming back along with the recruits coming in I would think 18 would be minimum. We get 12 or 13 this year, that is only five to six more. I can think of 3 or 4 that got away this year that could easily be turned next year. So I don't think getting 18 is asking too much. The next season should be tourney time. Don't miss it 3 straight years.