Mason Chambers Commits!!! (The original thread)

CYphyllis

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Rhoads was a step for ISU football that got us Campbell and staff at the right time. He didn't win enough here, but he loved ISU and coached us through the darkest days of realignment so I won't bash him now.

No, he won a few games with Chizik's guys and then bottomed out the program. His only consistency was terrible management decisions and maintaining a poor culture around the program. He's not a bad guy, but he didn't create anything for ISU football - Pollard did.
 

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No, he won a few games with Chizik's guys and then bottomed out the program. His only consistency was terrible management decisions and maintaining a poor culture around the program. He's not a bad guy, but he didn't create anything for ISU football - Pollard did.
Whether you like it or not realignment affected things. It would take an idiot to trade what we have now though.
 

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No, he won a few games with Chizik's guys and then bottomed out the program. His only consistency was terrible management decisions and maintaining a poor culture around the program. He's not a bad guy, but he didn't create anything for ISU football - Pollard did.

He was fine with his original coaching staff. After Herman left it was all down hill from there. Tried fitting a square peg in a round hole telling Mess he had to run Herman’s system instead of his own and so on.
 

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Whether you like it or not realignment affected things. It would take an idiot to trade what we have now though.

It did, but it's not an excuse. ISU wasn't the only school going through a realignment scare at that point in time. KState, OKState, TTech kept going. Baylor sold their soul for it, but they improved dramatically. The only other one that tanked was Kansas.
 
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It did, but it's not an excuse. ISU wasn't the only school going through a realignment scare at that point in time. KState, OKState, TTech kept going. Baylor sold their soul for it, but they improved dramatically. The only other one that tanked was Kansas.
ISU was the only one without a mate. Maybe Tech and Baylor, but they're in Texas, a lot of talent there. KSU and KU have each other, OU and OSU have each other. They may hate each other but they have a bind.
 

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ISU was the only one without a mate. Maybe Tech and Baylor, but they're in Texas, a lot of talent there. KSU and KU have each other, OU and OSU have each other. They may hate each other but they have a bind.

Always felt that was nothing more than message board and lazy journalism nonsense. The strongest bond between any two universities in the conference was Texas and aTm, which clearly meant nothing when money became involved.

It's a nice idea that schools are tied together by sharing a state or geographical area, but I don't believe it to be anywhere close to reality.
 

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I'm just looking at the 247 rankings of our classes. Good lord Rhoads last few classes averaged in the low 80s. Side note... we have the best long snapper in the country commited per 247, but his rating is 79. I wonder how they come to that conclusion.
Look at the names of the recruits in the CPR classes and see how many of those kids transferred out. It's ridiculous.
 

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No, he won a few games with Chizik's guys and then bottomed out the program. His only consistency was terrible management decisions and maintaining a poor culture around the program. He's not a bad guy, but he didn't create anything for ISU football - Pollard did.

Stop with the Chizik’s Guys stupidity. Lots of Rhoads guys on our roster yet. Good Jones, Meeker, Spears, Croney, Kene (Rhoads Commit that CMC signed), etc. And we had a lot of Rhoda’s players that were critical to the success that we have had the last couple years. Brian Peavey and Lanning and Harvey for example. Rhoads was our best choice for that time. But his moment and opportunity passed. But the enthusiasm generated in those early years led to improvements in facilities that Campbell now enjoys. And continues to capitalize on while improving things more.

Campbell is a much better recruiter. Love the strategy of Big 12 option in the Midwest. Why take a player from Texas just because he is from Texas. Our S & C seems to be better. Coaching Staff Continuity and Consistency is much better. Plus Campbell is an excellent speaker who communicates well. Rhoads stammered and stuttered a lot. Not a good speaker.

Campbell is a great coach. Love him. But we don’t need to bash Rhoads. He did good things. He also didn’t capitalize on opportunities. It was time to part ways. We improved ourselves with the coaching change.
 

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