I think this is true with LOTR. I've read that series so many times and love it, but there are plenty of moments where Tolkien rambles on about the scenery that will make me do that "ah hell, I just read that page and don't remember what I just read" thing and have to re-read it.
Well here I am!! I love Tolkien. I think @VeloClone might feel similarly, so I don't think I'm alone. I am, however, cognizant that different people like different things. I am not triggered.When I first started reading the series, I made notes/family trees. Now, we have ASIOF wiki which I would use as a reference to reading. I honestly don't know how anyone could read LOTR. As a huge fantasy ready, it had to be the most boring writing from my perspective.
Anyone else think the books get a free pass due to the time it's been since most have read them?
My immediate feelings after reading the books wasn't real positive. I thought the last two were a mess the Martin was struggling to rein in.
Anyone else think the books get a free pass due to the time it's been since most have read them?
My immediate feelings after reading the books wasn't real positive. I thought the last two were a mess the Martin was struggling to rein in.
Well here I am!! I love Tolkien. I think @VeloClone might feel similarly, so I don't think I'm alone. I am, however, cognizant that different people like different things. I am not triggered.
Perhaps you agree with Michael Moorcock's famous critique and can't stand reading about how King Arglebargle reigned for 100 years.
The only times I can read without falling asleep are on the shitter and running on the treadmill.If I pick up a book I will be asleep in 5 minutes.
The only times I can read without falling asleep are on the shitter and running on the treadmill.
You don't my opinion on Dorne - Iron Islands - Tyrion in Essos from the books, but I'll tell you anyway. They suck. It's pointless. Story would have been way better without them, and it's a big reason why I never even finished ADWD.
Yooooooo you lost me with the not liking Tyrion in Essos storyline... we could throw fists on that one hahah. I wanted Tyrion to see The Old Man of The River in the show so bad. Dorne's storyline in the books isn't great, but far better than the Dorne storyline in the show, and I think there will be characters that have a bigger part to play in the grand scheme of things in the books. Could be wrong though, or we could never find out, who knows!!You don't my opinion on Dorne - Iron Islands - Tyrion in Essos from the books, but I'll tell you anyway. They suck. It's pointless. Story would have been way better without them, and it's a big reason why I never even finished ADWD.
Yooooooo you lost me with the not liking Tyrion in Essos storyline... we could throw fists on that one. I wanted Tyrion to see The Old Man of The River in the show so bad. Dorne's storyline in the books isn't great, but far better than the Dorne storyline in the book, and I think there will be characters that have a bigger part to play in the grand scheme of things in the books. Could be wrong though, or we could never find out, who knows!!
You're correct, I meant far better than the dorne storyline in the show. Yeah, it was a bit all over the place at first but things started to take shape especially, like you said, after Doran laid out his plan.I'm assuming you meant to say "Dorne's storyline in the books isn't great, but far better than the Dorne storyline in the show". And I would agree. Dorne's storyline in the books confused me until Doran laid out his elaborate, long run endgame, then everything made sense. In the show Doran is a pathetic loser, Aryanne doesn't even exist, and the Sand Snakes are the real power of Dorne. It was just really disappointing.
Anyone else think the books get a free pass due to the time it's been since most have read them?
My immediate feelings after reading the books wasn't real positive. I thought the last two were a mess the Martin was struggling to rein in.
Speaking of Euron Greyjoy, here are a bunch of guys recreating his axe:
If you want any indication of how the writing has fared since the book material ran out... look no further than the Dorne storyline. That was supposed to be D&D's first "baby" and they completely ****** it up.
Not all of it is as bad as some make it seem, but there has certainly been a drop off.
I'm assuming you meant to say "Dorne's storyline in the books isn't great, but far better than the Dorne storyline in the show". And I would agree. Dorne's storyline in the books confused me until Doran laid out his elaborate, long run endgame, then everything made sense. In the show Doran is a pathetic loser, Aryanne doesn't even exist, and the Sand Snakes are the real power of Dorne. It was just really disappointing.
To be fair Dorne was quite bad in the books as well. Probably a good idea to cut their losses. Enjoyed watching the sand snakes die.
I was just mad how they wasted Areo Hotah. In the books he easily kills a member of the kingsguard and in the show he said to Jamie something about how when Jamie (one of the top 3-5 fighters in the realm) had his hand it might’ve been a good fight. Then he goes out like a complete ***** without much of a fight.To be fair Dorne was quite bad in the books as well. Probably a good idea to cut their losses. Enjoyed watching the sand snakes die.