Vick (KU) announces he is going pro

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With that roster, they don't need a Mason or Graham.
Yes, there comes a point where numbers outweigh talent and that seems to be the upcoming case at Ku. Self, without FBI meddling, will have 6 months to meld this group into another conference champion. If his 5* freshmen are what they're purported to be, and there's no reason to think not, Ku will dominate, and the race will again be for the Big12's esteemed silver trophy.
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With that roster, they don't need a Mason or Graham.
Yeah, whens the last time a big-heavy team won an NCAA title?

Anthony Davis' Kentucky team? KU has a nice roster but it's a guards game come tourney time, and there ain't nobody near AD level on that squad.

They could make another Final 4 run though.
 

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Yes, there comes a point where numbers outweigh talent and that seems to be the upcoming case at Ku. Self, without FBI meddling, will have 6 months to meld this group into another conference champion. If his 5* freshmen are what they're purported to be, and there's no reason to think not, Ku will dominate, and the race will again be for the Big12's esteemed silver trophy.
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Numbers outweigh talent? Kansas' bench will be talented enough to be a Top 25 team.
 

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Yeah, whens the last time a big-heavy team won an NCAA title?

Anthony Davis' Kentucky team? KU has a nice roster but it's a guards game come tourney time, and there ain't nobody near AD level on that squad.

They could make another Final 4 run though.
What do mean by a "big-heavy team"? A deep team? Let's see, when was the last time a team won the national title with 6 different players scoring an average of at least double figures? It was just months ago when Nova won the 2018 title.
 
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Lol stop it Fran

Likely starters to open the season are Moore, Grimes, Vick, Lawson & Azubuike

So that leaves a bench of:
Fr PG Devon Dotson
So SG Marcus Garrett
Rs. Jr SF KJ Lawson
So PF Silvio De Sousa
Fr C David McCormack

That's two McDonald's All American freshmen, two top 35 sophomores and a Top 50 4 star transfer who averaged 12 and 8 at Memphis in his last year there. Yes, that's a Top 25 starting lineup, easily.
 
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Likely starters to open the season are Moore, Grimes, Vick, Lawson & Azubuike

So that leaves a bench of:
Fr PG Devon Dotson
So SG Marcus Garrett
Rs. Jr SF KJ Lawson
So PF Silvio De Sousa
Fr C David McCormack

That's two McDonald's All American freshmen, two top 35 sophomores and a Top 50 4 star transfer who averaged 12 and 8 at Memphis in his last year there. Yes, that's a Top 25 starting lineup, easily.

I hope you're right and that's the starting lineup
 

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What do mean by a "big-heavy team"? A deep team? Let's see, when was the last time a team won the national title with 6 different players scoring an average of at least double figures? It was just months ago when Nova won the 2018 title.
KU has a very good roster for next year, no question.

But listen to yourself. You're making it seem like this is a 0 loss team that we should just declare NCAA champs now. I mean, might as well right? A team with it's 6-10 players being "top 25 good" surely wouldn't bow out early in the NCAA's would they?

What I see is potential with big time recruits and a shaky back court.

There's probably a reason a certain American Conference school lots its two "best players" and had a better season the following year, right?
 

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K-State will match up well on the starting five. Today, I'd say the talent is even. But who knows until they play? After that though, it's clearly Ku's advantage.

6'2" F PG - Dotson v. 6'4" So Chartier Diarra
6'5" F SG - Grimes v. 6'3" S Barry Brown
6'5" S G - Vick v. 6'5" J Xavier Sneed
6'9" J PF - D. Lawson v. 6'10" S Dean Wade
7'0" S C - Udoka v. 6'9" J Mak Mawien
 
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K-State will match up well on the starting five. Today, I'd say the talent is even. But who knows until they play? After that though, it's clearly Ku's advantage.

6'2" F PG - Dotson v. 6'4" So Chartier Diarra
6'5" F SG - Grimes v. 6'3" S Barry Brown
6'5" S G - Vick v. 6'5" J Xavier Sneed
6'9" J PF - D. Lawson v. 6'10" S Dean Wade
7'0" S C - Udoka v. 6'9" J Mak Mawien
Oh, K-State most definitely does not match up on talent/potential but certainly does from a toughness/experience stand point.
 

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Oh, K-State most definitely does not match up on talent/potential but certainly does from a toughness/experience stand point.
I don't want to make this a K-State topic but I do disagree. Both Brown and Wade will be first team going into the season. Dean will be preseason POY. Sneed showed v. UK that he's ready to play with anyone. Doke has a clear advantage down low. I don't know about PG.
 

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I don't want to make this a K-State topic but I do disagree. Both Brown and Wade will be first team going into the season. Dean will be preseason POY. Sneed showed v. UK that he's ready to play with anyone. Doke has a clear advantage down low. I don't know about PG.
KU is more talented than K-State and I don't think it's really that debateable.
 

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Yeah, whens the last time a big-heavy team won an NCAA title?

Anthony Davis' Kentucky team? KU has a nice roster but it's a guards game come tourney time, and there ain't nobody near AD level on that squad.

They could make another Final 4 run though.

North Carolina.
 

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