Vick (KU) announces he is going pro
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He had Nova written all over him. Good pickup for Wright. They are also killing it on the recruiting trail for HS kids as well which they should be after two titles.
Nova has to be considered one of the blues now. They've been good for a long time. Rolly's win over Georgetown back in the 80's was the biggest upset I can ever recall. What a game.
Anyway, I'd rank them in today's world like this, granted, with considerable deference to UCLA's history ...
1. Kentucky (8 titles)
2. Duke (5)
3. North Carolina (6)
4. Nova (3)
5. UCLA (11)
Others: Indiana (5), UCONN (4), Ku (3), Louisville (2), Michigan State (2)
Anyway, I'd rank them in today's world like this, granted, with considerable deference to UCLA's history ...
1. Kentucky (8 titles)
2. Duke (5)
3. North Carolina (6)
4. Nova (3)
5. UCLA (11)
Others: Indiana (5), UCONN (4), Ku (3), Louisville (2), Michigan State (2)
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Nova is deserving of all the accolades their recent success generates but I wouldn't give them blue blood status yet.
3 of the programs have proven to be more than a result of a great coach and won in each decade in varying degrees. Duke would be the exception and I want to see how Duke fairs after Coach K retires but still consider them a "blue blood". I assume with Nike money his coaching tree they will be set up to continue their success but that is uncharted territory.
I think many would have thought Georgetown or Indiana would have blue blood status entering the 90's but after their HOF coaches left they regressed back to the mean of good programs.
Based completely on my own observatoins, I feel the current blueblood tiers are:
Tier 1: Duke/Carolina/Kentucky/Kansas/Nova
Tier 2: Arizona/Louisville(this could drop fast with Pitino gone)/Michigan State/Gonzaga/Xavier
Tier 3: West Virginia/UCLA/Texas/Florida/Oregon/Wisconsin
I'm sure I'm missing a ton of names.
I guess it depends on how you define blueblood. Overall program history, or current state/appeal, especially when it comes to recruiting?
I would remove WVU and Wiscy. Indiana is still a top program. Michigan? Virginia doesn't recruit a bunch of 5stars, but their body of work is impressive.
I'd put Duke at #1 as long as Coach K is there. His 5 titles, including 3 since 2000 trump Coach Cal's 1 title. I'd probably have UNC 2nd, followed by Nova then Kentucky. If we are talking about currency at least. KU probably rounds out the top 5 with MSU right on their heels. UCONN not being a P5 team anymore hurts them. Indiana and UCLA haven't had a lot of current success which knocks them down a bit. As for Louisville, lets see how they fare without ADIDAS buying them recruits.
Vick (KU) announces he is going back to KU. Full circle.
@WingspanSports BREAKING: as @GaryBedore reported, Kansas Basketball senior, Lagerald Vick is returning to Kansas for his senior year.
Read how this impacts next years Jayhawks. #KUbball
@WingspanSports BREAKING: as @GaryBedore reported, Kansas Basketball senior, Lagerald Vick is returning to Kansas for his senior year.
Read how this impacts next years Jayhawks. #KUbball
Perimeter players Vick, Dotson, Grimes, Moore, Garrett, KJ Lawson, Cunliffe, Agbaji
Bigs Azubuike, D. Lawson, De Sousa, McCormack, Lightfoot
All 13 schollies to solid players. Poor Cunliffe transferred to Kansas to fill Tyler Self's minutes. Holy buckets KU is gonna be a monster next season.
Not trolling but isn't this is a bad thing. I was under the impression Self wanted him gone and hes a problem child which is why everyone was speculating a transfer
Also Cunliffe isn't solid, he sucks
Nope, not a bad thing to give your open, 13th scholarship to a guy who has three years in your system and has proven results. KU is a better team with him than without him.
There was a lot of speculation about Vick at the end of the season so much of the "I thought he was (fill in the blank)" was nothing more than keyboarders stating opinion as fact. Sounds like Self had a sit down with him, discussed what was expected of him for next year and decided that it sounded like Vick was willing to do what Self asked of him. With all of the competition for minutes on the perimeter, Vick will either do as is asked of him or he will watch others do as Self asks of them. Senior year, last chance. Put up or sit down.
As for Cunliffe, he averaged 9.5 a game in 25 mpg at Arizona State as a freshman. That's not speculation or crimson & blue fan goggles; it happened. When given minutes and a consistent role, he has been solid. If he got 25 mpg next year at Kansas or some other p5 school, he would be solid again. But he'll be the 12th best player at Kansas next year so he'll get sucky minutes.
Gotcha. I just thought Self came out and said Vick wouldn't be with them next year regardless or something similar. I agree if he doesn't do what he's told he's not needed and won't play
We'll see how the guard play ends up. Don't think they'll have a Mason or Graham on this years squad.
This is a good point. How does this work for Vick? I thought the deadline has passed for guys to return to college.
If he didn't hire an agent, didn't get drafted, and hasn't signed a free agent contact, then I assume he could return to college. We will see how well Self "takes care" of his players. I hope his presence is a total disruption next season.
