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I dont want to be too mean or snarky, but you a very wrong with most of what you claim.

Last 20 years are not close
ISU winning percentage is 38%
Iowa winning percentage is 60%

ISU schedule has been bolstered by playing a team that has a 60% winning percentage in Iowa. Iowa schedule is watered down because of that. That is a fact.

ISU got most of their good seasons before last year in a terrible Big 12 North. Which is way worse than the big 10 west. Iowa has been consistent with either the legends, west, or regular big schedule.

As far as saying the Big 12 is better? Not so much last year IMO. The big 10 and big 12 are pretty even historically. Either fan base could argue their case. I will give the nod to the big 12, but recently and going forward the big 10 could be better. Texas and Baylor are not their prime anymore. Nebraska is in the big. Missouri is gone. Oklahoma is the cream of the crop. TCU and OSU are right there. Big 12 used to be top heavy but looks to have a lot of mediocre teams outside those 3. In the Big 10 you got Michigan, OSU, Penn State, and Wisconsin. MSU Northwestern and Iowa have been good recently. I see a lot of similar teams in each league.


What past troll is this?
 
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I believe you can only use Sagarin for teams that do not get coaches votes or AP votes on this site. So that would exclude about 40 teams from consideration. Dont know how you will compare evenly matched teams that are in the 26-40 range but to each their own.

How will you compare evenly matched teams that are in the 15-25 range?
 

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How was the Big 12 North way worse than the Big 10 West? If anything the Big Ten West is probably worse IMO

Nebraska was the best team in the north? or KSU? That would be like Iowa being the best team in the West year in and year out. Which is not the case. put it this way, which old big 12 north team has won a conference championship since leaving or combining for an all big 12? It is 0. When ISU stopped playing in the north their schedule got harder right?
 

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Nebraska was the best team in the north? or KSU? That would be like Iowa being the best team in the West year in and year out. Which is not the case. put it this way, which old big 12 north team has won a conference championship since leaving or combining for an all big 12? It is 0. When ISU stopped playing in the north their schedule got harder right?

The Big 12 North was incredibly easy, that's not what I'm saying. I don't know that it's easier than playing in the big Ten West though
 

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You use AP votes to judge teams from 15-25 but 25-35 you ignore it? Lol ok

At that point it is a throw in for honorable mention basically. Like in MVP voting or Conference teams.... the left over teams or whatever that have votes are put on their to say, o man they were close to getting ranked. Was ISU closer, sure, but they were not in any ranking at the end of the year. That is a fact. But congrats on the participation trophy and being about 3 more people ahead of Iowa to go shake the hands of the 25 best teams.
 

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At that point it is a throw in for honorable mention basically. Like in MVP voting or Conference teams.... the left over teams or whatever that have votes are put on their to say, o man they were close to getting ranked. Was ISU closer, sure, but they were not in any ranking at the end of the year. That is a fact. But congrats on the participation trophy and being about 3 more people ahead of Iowa to go shake the hands of the 25 best teams.

ISU finished 28th in the AP poll, Iowa finished 34th. It's not bragging to say we were better than a Big Ten West team, it's just pointing out a fact
 
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ISU finished 28th in the AP poll, Iowa finished 34th. It's not bragging to say we were better than a Big Ten West team, it's just pointing out a fact

How? Neither team was ranked in the AP. the AP only goes to 25 teams. We both got honorable mention for top 25 consideration.
 

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How? Neither team was ranked in the AP. the AP only goes to 25 teams. We both got honorable mention for top 25 consideration.

ISU finished 28th in AP votes, Iowa finished 34th. To compare Oklahoma finished 3rd in AP votes and Ohio State finished 5th
 

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ISU finished 28th in the AP poll, Iowa finished 34th. It's not bragging to say we were better than a Big Ten West team, it's just pointing out a fact
If ISU was ranked in the AP at the end of 2017 season, then Iowa went to the tournament 3 times under fran right?
 
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The Big 12 North was incredibly easy, that's not what I'm saying. I don't know that it's easier than playing in the big Ten West though

Big 12 North was much easier than the Big 12 South. I'm not sure if it was that much easier than the B1G West either.

The thing about the Big 12 at that time was that we had a set cross-division schedule. We'd for sure see Oklahoma and Texas every two years.

In the B1G West right now you could miss out on tOSU, Michigan, or Penn State for multiple years and cycle through Rutgers, Indiana, Maryland, and maybe a down MSU team.

I would be interested to see the year over year SOS for each B1G West team since they went to 14. It seems like it's either all or nothing.
 

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If ISU was ranked in the AP at the end of 2017 season, then Iowa went to the tournament 3 times under fran right?

I never said ISU finished ranked at the end of the 2017 season. I said they finished with more votes than the TOE


Will you guys get a room? You've been having the same argument for most of this thread. Invite YeahDouchey along and you guys can all bang it out to assert your dominance.
 
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Big 12 North was much easier than the Big 12 South. I'm not sure if it was that much easier than the B1G West either.

The thing about the Big 12 at that time was that we had a set cross-division schedule. We'd for sure see Oklahoma and Texas every two years.

In the B1G West right now you could miss out on tOSU, Michigan, or Penn State for multiple years and cycle through Rutgers, Indiana, Maryland, and maybe a down MSU team.

I would be interested to see the year over year SOS for each B1G West team since they went to 14. It seems like it's either all or nothing.

Big 12 North was hard for the first few years of the divisions when KSU and Nebbie were still good. CO was pretty good too.

2005 will always remain a very 'Iowa State' thing because the schedule was about as favorable as you could ask and they couldn't do it.
 

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I would be interested to see the year over year SOS for each B1G West team since they went to 14. It seems like it's either all or nothing.

2014- 2017 and then the 4 year average for each school:

Iowa: 60, 52, 33, 5 37.5
Illinois: 44, 44, 37, 43 42
Minny: 43, 43, 65, 59 52.5
Nebby: 61, 49, 57, 9 44
NW: 53, 33, 47, 52 46.3
Purdue: 50, 40, 61, 42 53.3
Wisky: 54, 66, 13, 47 45

Over/Under on the number of Clone fans that would have said Iowa has played, on average, the hardest schedule in the B1G West since the league went to 14 teams will be set at 0.5. I will take the under.
 

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2014- 2017 and then the 4 year average for each school:

Iowa: 60, 52, 33, 5 37.5
Illinois: 44, 44, 37, 43 42
Minny: 43, 43, 65, 59 52.5
Nebby: 61, 49, 57, 9 44
NW: 53, 33, 47, 52 46.3
Purdue: 50, 40, 61, 42 53.3
Wisky: 54, 66, 13, 47 45

Over/Under on the number of Clone fans that would have said Iowa has played, on average, the hardest schedule in the B1G West since the league went to 14 teams will be set at 0.5. I will take the under.

That does not fit the narrative around here.
 
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