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This. An athlete being upset about a coach getting physical with them says absolutely nothing about that athlete's mental or physical toughness. It says plenty about the coach, though.
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This. An athlete being upset about a coach getting physical with them says absolutely nothing about that athlete's mental or physical toughness. It says plenty about the coach, though.
Those that never had a coach get physical with them (I had. HS FB coach who would drill you in the helmet, kick you, even throw stuff at you) it's hard to understand how you get mentally broke from the physical and emotional (any coach that gets physical also will belittle and mentally mess with you) beatings you take.
It wasn't that long ago that a wrestling coach smacking his guy in the headgear several times right before a match was fairly common.
That seems a little different than the issue at hand. What you’re referring to sounds like a motivational/pump up type action. What Metcalf allegedly did was as more disciplinary. Tough to compare those.
I think it’s important for coaches to understand what their competitors respond to best individually. Some respond to tough love a lot better than others and I think you need to know who and when to use it with.
I was sitting in one of the sections behind the ISU bench at the WV meet when all this went down. This thread makes it sound like Metcalf went up and shoved Storr because he lost or didn’t show enough effort. What I saw was Metcalf trying to hurry Storr out of the arena because he was slowly leaving the mat/pouting after the match. If you have seen Storr lose before, he has a tendency to do that. Metcalf comes from the Hawkeye mindset where every wrestler runs out of the arena win or lose as to not let your opponent see your emotion. He’s done this with other ISU wrestlers that pout after matches, including Parker the match right before.
That was what made Gable great. He figured out what each guy needed.
This! The push is being made into way more then what it was.
Glad to have an eye witness account. I would side with kanen if he'd been shoved but to me it sounds like his feelings were hurt
I'm going to show my age a bit here, but if a little shove from a coach in a highly physical sport is enough to make a guy not feel safe, either that guy is not meant for that sport, or the sport has changed enough that I'm going to have to reevaluate my assessment of that sport.
There are plenty of stories of Gable physically and mentally abusing his wrestlers. In most cases, it was needed, and the kids involved had to know what they had signed up for (see: KNIGHT, Bobby). But Gable did those things in the wrestling room, not in front of fans and opposing wrestlers and coaches.
The earlier post about knowing which kid needs a pat and which one needs a smack are spot on. That was the genius of Lombardi - he could read that and act accordingly. Maybe Storr needs pats.
The earlier post about knowing which kid needs a pat and which one needs a smack are spot on. That was the genius of Lombardi - he could read that and act accordingly. Maybe Storr needs pats.
At least they're most likely responsive when he needs something fixed. Conversations with my landlord were never pleasant. Guy that owns the Fountain View apartments through Jensen is a total piece of ****.
I can echo this. It seemed Metcalf was trying to hurry him to the back, which isn’t a push at all. This happened to me a time or two when I wrestled in high school after a disappointing match and to me if Storr can’t handle that, then I’m glad he’s leaving. As for the other stuff, I’m sure blame goes both ways but this had to have been building up for a while and if the coaches knew he’d be gone after the year, why not let Parker give it a go. Parker is the hardest worker in the room and fully bought into the new Iowa State way, Storr was not
There is never a proper justification for mentally or physically abusing someone. Never
Some more details here-
https://amp.desmoinesregister.com/amp/1085492001?__twitter_impression=true
In Storr's statement, he claimed "multiple news platforms … refused to publish the story from my perspective." Storr initially reached out to the Register on Wednesday via direct message and asked the Register to publish only his version. The Register informed Storr that Iowa State would need to be contacted before the story was published. The Register talked to multiple Iowa State wrestling coaches on Wednesday night.
Storr also told the Register that he hoped sharing his side of the story would help lessen any potential tampering penalties levied against the Virginia wrestling program. On Thursday morning, after the Register contacted the Iowa State wrestling program to fact-check Storr's initial claims, Storr reached back out to the Register.
"Scratch the story, I don’t want to re-light the fire and blow this up again," he wrote.
The Register was preparing its story for publication at the time of Storr's Twitter statement Thursday
https://amp.desmoinesregister.com/amp/1085492001?__twitter_impression=true
In Storr's statement, he claimed "multiple news platforms … refused to publish the story from my perspective." Storr initially reached out to the Register on Wednesday via direct message and asked the Register to publish only his version. The Register informed Storr that Iowa State would need to be contacted before the story was published. The Register talked to multiple Iowa State wrestling coaches on Wednesday night.
Storr also told the Register that he hoped sharing his side of the story would help lessen any potential tampering penalties levied against the Virginia wrestling program. On Thursday morning, after the Register contacted the Iowa State wrestling program to fact-check Storr's initial claims, Storr reached back out to the Register.
"Scratch the story, I don’t want to re-light the fire and blow this up again," he wrote.
The Register was preparing its story for publication at the time of Storr's Twitter statement Thursday
Between reading this and what Storr wrote, seems like he wanted special treatment. If that is the case, glad both sides have moved on.
Gable didn't really adjust his approach. Have a friend who wrestled for him. Left after a year or two because of the emotional torment of gable. Gable felt he had to emotionally break you down to build you how he wanted you. This guy didn't want the psycho stuff. This kid would have been a 2-3 year starter for them had he stayed.
I was at the meet and saw what happened. Dresser stood up and talked to Storr when he came off the mat. Storr turned away from Dresser and headed to the bench Metcalf , obviously unhappy, intercepted him and put his hand on his butt or lower back area and directed him toward the back. It was more of a push than a shove and it was not physical abuse . I don’t have any problem if Metcalf said get the hell out of here. Later Zadick sat with Storr on the bench talking for at least 5 min maybe more in a calm demeanor.
Dresser has said multiple times Storr was not practicing like he should. Storr admits he talked to Paulson about his situation after Las Vegas. Paulson talking with him about anything like this is a direct violation of NCAA rules.
Dresser has said multiple times Storr was not practicing like he should. Storr admits he talked to Paulson about his situation after Las Vegas. Paulson talking with him about anything like this is a direct violation of NCAA rules.
