Is this the beginning of the end of football?

[weR138]

If a link can be made to violent / murderous behavior and CTE will cases of "CTE made me do it" become prevalent? Would that then prompt the elimination of the cause of CTE?

Since a person has to be dead and a brain examined to reveal CTE no living person can cry "CTE" yet. But what happens when medical science catches up?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/09/health/aaron-hernandez-brain-cte/index.html

 

[Doc]

We're well past the "beginning" of the end of football.

 

[cyhiphopp]

If a link can be made to violent / murderous behavior and CTE will cases of "CTE made me do it" become prevalent? Would that then prompt the elimination of the cause of CTE?

Since a person has to be dead and a brain examined to reveal CTE no living person can cry "CTE" yet. But what happens when medical science catches up?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/09/health/aaron-hernandez-brain-cte/index.html

I think it will continue the trend towards player safety and avoiding multiple concussions.

But by all accounts, Aaron Hernandez was a complete degenerate in Middle School and High School, so CTE didn't force him to do jack.

There's a lot of former players suffering from the affects of CTE who haven't hurt anyone, even if they are losing it a little.

Hernandez may just be a case where nature and nurture (CTE) combined to form a complete sack of crap.

 

[CycloneErik]

I think it will continue the trend towards player safety and avoiding multiple concussions.

But by all accounts, Aaron Hernandez was a complete degenerate in Middle School and High School, so CTE didn't force him to do jack.

There's a lot of former players suffering from the affects of CTE who haven't hurt anyone, even if they are losing it a little.

Hernandez may just be a case where nature and nurture (CTE) combined to form a complete sack of crap.

This may be the most fun sentence I read all day.

 

[jbindm]

If a link can be made to violent / murderous behavior and CTE will cases of "CTE made me do it" become prevalent? Would that then prompt the elimination of the cause of CTE?

Since a person has to be dead and a brain examined to reveal CTE no living person can cry "CTE" yet. But what happens when medical science catches up?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/09/health/aaron-hernandez-brain-cte/index.html

Researchers are possibly already developing a way to diagnose CTE in patients who are still alive. It's early, but they seem pretty optimistic about it. I posted a thread about it a while back.

https://cyclonefanatic.com/forum/threads/potential-breakthrough-in-cte-research.231448/

 

[CycoCyclone]

What level of catastrophic injury will it take? Bears tight end almost lost his leg due to a ruptured blood vessel in his leg.

CTE will ruin you

But the millions of dollars you earn gets your family out of poverty for your and hopefully their lifetime....health for money

 

[clone52]

If a link can be made to violent / murderous behavior and CTE will cases of "CTE made me do it" become prevalent? Would that then prompt the elimination of the cause of CTE?

Since a person has to be dead and a brain examined to reveal CTE no living person can cry "CTE" yet. But what happens when medical science catches up?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/09/health/aaron-hernandez-brain-cte/index.html

If if "CTE made me do it" is a defense, it will get them off the streets. That is unless we keep electing people who ignore mental health issues and scientific research.

 

[CycloneErik]

What level of catastrophic injury will it take? Bears tight end almost lost his leg due to a ruptured blood vessel in his leg.

CTE will ruin you

But the millions of dollars you earn gets your family out of poverty for your and hopefully their lifetime....health for money

How many actually earn millions of dollars?
A sober look at numbers like that could be a factor.

 

[cyhiphopp]

Researchers are possibly already developing a way to diagnose CTE in patients who are still alive. It's early, but they seem pretty optimistic about it. I posted a thread about it a while back.

https://cyclonefanatic.com/forum/threads/potential-breakthrough-in-cte-research.231448/

I think those advances will be great for helping protect people from debilitating brain injury.

I still don't think football will go away. As long as the NFL is willing to shell out millions of dollars for people to play football, there will continue to be players willing to take the risk. With living detection you might see a lot more guys retiring early to protect their future.

I don't think football will die however. There's still a lot they can do to help prevent head trauma in the first place. They've improved the helmet, but I bet there's more they can do there. Youth football has begun to stress proper tackling technique to prevent injury, so hopefully that has a trickle down effect.

 

[clone52]

What level of catastrophic injury will it take? Bears tight end almost lost his leg due to a ruptured blood vessel in his leg.

CTE will ruin you

But the millions of dollars you earn gets your family out of poverty for your and hopefully their lifetime....health for money

No injuries are going to end it completely. Plenty of people work in unsafe jobs with long term health concerns. Some players will quit (they already have), but others will take that money.

 

[jbindm]

What level of catastrophic injury will it take? Bears tight end almost lost his leg due to a ruptured blood vessel in his leg.

CTE will ruin you

But the millions of dollars you earn gets your family out of poverty for your and hopefully their lifetime....health for money

The funny thing is that of all the major pro sports, pro football is probably the most likely to leave a player with lasting health issues and the least likely to earn you millions given the disposable nature of it. I'd rather be a rotation player in the NBA or MLB for 5-10 years with guaranteed contracts and higher veteran minimums than a starter in the NFL for 4-6 years where my contract could be torn up by the team at pretty much any time if I get hurt or underperform.

 

[cyhiphopp]

How many actually earn millions of dollars?
A sober look at numbers like that could be a factor.

A large percentage of NFL players have that hope that they will get a big payday eventually, even if they are drafted later.

In the meantime, just a few years playing for the league minimum is a good amount of money. Doesn't mean they will spend it wisely, but it's still good money.

 

[ruxCYtable]

From a young age, it has always felt inevitable to me that someday society would deem the sport too dangerous. I don't know why I felt that way, but it seems to be coming to fruition.

 

[FerShizzle]

Who knew that banging your heads together was bad for you? For the most part I say good riddance. It has been enjoyable watching the Cyclones have success this season, but I won't miss football or the gladiator culture that it inspires.

 

[Doc]

Researchers are possibly already developing a way to diagnose CTE in patients who are still alive. It's early, but they seem pretty optimistic about it. I posted a thread about it a while back.

https://cyclonefanatic.com/forum/threads/potential-breakthrough-in-cte-research.231448/

This is what I think may actually be the end of football. If they show a bunch of active players have CTE it's all over.

 

[Clonehomer]

If a link can be made to violent / murderous behavior and CTE will cases of "CTE made me do it" become prevalent? Would that then prompt the elimination of the cause of CTE?

Since a person has to be dead and a brain examined to reveal CTE no living person can cry "CTE" yet. But what happens when medical science catches up?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/09/health/aaron-hernandez-brain-cte/index.html

Of course the next step is to kill them to prove or disprove the claim. Worked well for Salem.

 

[jbhtexas]

Among kids, FB seems to no longer be the worst problem...

http://usatodayhss.com/2017/new-stu...pita-rate-of-concussions-than-any-other-sport

 

[jbindm]

I think those advances will be great for helping protect people from debilitating brain injury.

I still don't think football will go away. As long as the NFL is willing to shell out millions of dollars for people to play football, there will continue to be players willing to take the risk. With living detection you might see a lot more guys retiring early to protect their future.

I don't think football will die however. There's still a lot they can do to help prevent head trauma in the first place. They've improved the helmet, but I bet there's more they can do there. Youth football has begun to stress proper tackling technique to prevent injury, so hopefully that has a trickle down effect.

I think you're right. There are parts of this country where football is so deeply ingrained in the culture that I don't think it will ever go away at the local and youth level. Where we'll see the impact long term is the duration of a player's career. If I had to guess, during the next CBA negotiation the players are going to make a hard push for two things - to shorten a team's control over players on rookie deals by either shortening the standard length or eliminating the franchise player tag, and more guaranteed money in contracts. If they get one or the other we'll see more players cashing out before 30 years old after completing their rookie contracts and their one big payday free agency deal with their health still mostly intact.

 

[BMWallace]

Football will die when the heath insurance industry decides that it will no longer cover sports related head injuries. Once that happens, parents will no longer be able to afford to let their kids play football, and schools will stop fielding teams in order to avoid liability. Once football dies at the youth level, every level above will wither.

 

[cyhiphopp]

I think you're right. There are parts of this country where football is so deeply ingrained in the culture that I don't think it will ever go away at the local and youth level. Where we'll see the impact long term is the duration of a player's career. If I had to guess, during the next CBA negotiation the players are going to make a hard push for two things - to shorten a team's control over players on rookie deals by either shortening the standard length or eliminating the franchise player tag, and more guaranteed money in contracts. If they get one or the other we'll see more players cashing out before 30 years old after completing their rookie contracts and their one big payday free agency deal with their health still mostly intact.

I hope they also push for extended health care coverage for retired players. So many of them blow their money and can't handle health issues after they retire. Take better care of players when they are playing, and after they retire.