REPORT: Top 4 expansion candidates
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TV sets was the issue last go around. Now it is about viewership of whatever platform the games, shows, or stories are on. That is the future, the easy money for just having a cable network are over.
The only way they would end up in the same conference is if the Big 12 takes all four of those teams and goes to East/West divisions.
When does the ACC implode? Doesn't their GOR disolve if there isn't a new media contract soon? We just have to outlast them.
The network for BYU is mostly educational and religious programming from what I hear from BYU fans. The university has said it will roll the 1 or 2 games that are shown into a conference network or network affiliation if they go to a P5 conference, so the network is really no problem. They aren't Texas
and no I'm not Mormon...just know some alumni of BYU
If BYU is invited, it would have to be football only to begin with and then decide on Olympic sports later.
lol...Memphis has a large stadium, but even while winning 10 games last year, they averaged just over 30k for home attendance numbers.
Not to mention, of all the schools that have been talked about, Memphis is the lowest ranked school academically. It's ranked 130 places behind than the lowest current Big 12 team.
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FIFY.
The reason why Rutgers gives the Big Ten access to NYC is because they are actually physically located in the #1 NYC TV Market, UConn is not. Therefore, UConn does not give the Big 12 access to the NYC market. UConn is physically located in the #30 Hartford & New Haven market. That is a fact. That is non-negotiable.
In 2016, UConn is #30 with 0.834% of the TV sets in the US (DOWN from 0.851% in 2015).
In 2016, Cincy is #36 with 0.767% of the TV sets in the US (DOWN from 0.770% in 2015).
Combined, Cincy & UConn add 1,814,150 TV households.
In 2016, the Chicago TV market is #3 with 3.067% of the TV sets in the US (UP from 3.055% in 2015). Alone it has 3,475,220 TV households or 1,661,070 MORE TV households than Cincy & UConn COMBINED.
Stop with UConn.
The only Top 20 TV markets located in the Heartland (which I'm defining as west of the Great Lakes up to the Rockies) not covered by the Big 12 are:
- #3 Chicago
- #15 Minneapolis (which is unattainable because Minny isn't leaving the Big Ten)
- #17 Denver
#3 Chicago
#5 Dallas
#10 Houston
#17 Denver
#23 Pittsburgh
#32 San Antonio
#33 Kansas City
#39 Austin
#43 Oklahoma City
Morgantown, WV is officially located in the Pittsburgh TV market (in case anyone was wondering).
There is pretty much a zero percent chance the Big 12 puts all of their big dogs in the same division. If those teams were added it would be an East/West division conference.
Isn't that what the B1G and SEC do? It also makes it appear there are other "big dogs" in the other division because they get to play easier schedules and get more wins than they would/should.
So throw out the school with the biggest athletic budget in the country? Lmao. Has Bernie Sander's staff taken over the selection committee?
wtf is wrong with this? Replace them with a gloried UNI school like Colorado state? Who can't even average 25k/ game for FB?
be careful what you wish for... Snowflakes.... The Big 12 shouldn't be a dumping ground for old WAC conference schools
tv dma/tv markets will be a dead concept in 10 years. anyone making a decision based off that is living in the past. the new way will make iowa st look like a great team to have; how many of your fans will sign up to receive iowa state/big 12 content? thats how good you are to us.
thats why rutgers will end up being a pile of turd and iowa and iowa st may end up being the 2 best teams in the country; or at least the midwest.
dont beleive me? thats fine but i work closely in the industry; big changes are coming.
thats why rutgers will end up being a pile of turd and iowa and iowa st may end up being the 2 best teams in the country; or at least the midwest.
dont beleive me? thats fine but i work closely in the industry; big changes are coming.
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big 10 grabbing rutgers and maryland was good short term but bad long term. the league may understand that and not care.
Understand this his concept and agree on where we are headed. Iowa State fans are passionate and all, but there still are not that many of us. And we have no fans outside of our graduate base. There's little brand awareness.
Agree that Colorado State is not a good choice. They may be in a big media market but nobody cares at all. Colorado State averaged around 18,000 fans in 2013. The 10 year high for attendance is 26,575 per game. They have a basketball program and a football program that is not very successful in the Mountain West Conference. A move to the Big 12 would not be good.
http://www.coloradoan.com/story/sports/2015/11/12/colorado-state-football-home-attendance/75653810/
Giving $20 mil to sponsor a B12 title game isn't going to get Memphis into the conversation. To add an expansion team AND to stay revenue nuetral (ie. not lose money), they new school needs to bring in about $250 mil in value. FedEx's $20 mil is a complete drop in the bucket.
More people need to understand this is 100% about MONEY. It is not about fanbases, attendance, or winning programs.
That is the media narrative (cord cutting, etc.) but it is just not true. ESPN, Fox, etc. have all said live sports is their key to keeping people from cord cutting. So I'm guessing they are going to continue to spend, maybe even moreso, on live sports. Fox just gave the Big 10 $250 million for 25 football games (and 50 basketball games)! That is an insane amount of money for a portion of games.
They have to have money to give though. We have to look to the future and not the past. The idea of a Rutgers just isn't what is going to work anymore.
There are really three schools that make sense. They are Cincinnati, UCONN, and Memphis. Personally I like all three but then you would need a 4th and I don't know who you would take. CSU or ECU? Someone from the ACC? I think it is Cincinnati and one of Memphis or UCONN. Then plans for future expansion by taking one or two of the ACC schools when they look to leave.
If you are planning for the ACC to be available, you don't do a damn thing until that happens.
