REPORT: Top 4 expansion candidates

[Stormin]

It very well could make sense to take UConn over BYU, but not because UConn is set up for football success better. BYU has more football upside than UConn in every way looking into the future, if you count the past then it's even more lopsided for BYU football.

BYU is known as a dirty football team.....maybe the dirtiest. They are known to take cheap shots to put players out of games. I really don't think Oklahoma has forgotten the shots that Sam Bradford took when BYU played the Sooners. The Big 12 is not looking for a football power to challenge Oklahoma and other football powers in the Big 12. If you listened to the Oklahoma Board of Regent member then you would acknowledge that he actually does not want other football teams to have the upside to challenge the Sooners.

Big 12 is looking to launch a Big 12 Network. Bringing in BYU makes that even more complicated. The complications and hassles just aren't worth it. The Big 12 Football brand is strong enough with the teams we have. Big 12 is looking for additional conference members to get divisions and a CCG and a Conference TV Network. And media market. That is it.

 

[CYCLNST8]

I hope this is a joke.

Nope. Texas will never give up the Longhorn Network. Therefore there will never be a Big 12 Network. So all of this bickering is pointless unless we remove that hurdle. Texas is on the verge of successfully blowing up another conference, and they couldn't care less because they'll be fine either way.

 

[Mtowncyclone13]

Texas is like the bratty rich kid who is a total ****** but has a trust fund so the girls keep flirting with him. No one likes him - they just want to ride in his Ferarri - so he thinks he's hot ****.

 

[RustShack]

Nope. Texas will never give up the Longhorn Network. Therefore there will never be a Big 12 Network. So all of this bickering is pointless unless we remove that hurdle. Texas is on the verge of successfully blowing up another conference, and they couldn't care less because they'll be fine either way.

If Texas left the first time around then Iowa State was either going to the Mac, or if they were "lucky" the Big East. You really think that's better than being in the Big12?

 

[KnappShack]

Texas is like the bratty rich kid who is a total ****** but has a trust fund so the girls keep flirting with him. No one likes him - they just want to ride in his Ferarri - so he thinks he's hot ****.

Money talks and bull **** walks. Texas has the money and the power. Hold on to those coattails and keep cashing the checks

 

[Stormin]

Um, no. The Big 10 took Rutgers and Maryland.

If you think conference leaders are considering BCS bowl berths as reasons for taking new schools, you don't understand the process at all.

The reason TCU was taken instead of others was their recent football success and BCS bowl berth. Their basketball team sucked. And TCU was competing in the Mountain West Conference. BCS berth and an afternoon of drinks by the TCU AD and Dodds from Texas led to their invitation. Louisville would have been a better choice. And a partner for West Virginia. Louisville played in the Big East along with West Virginia and would have been the logical fit. TCU added nothing to the football imprint. Texas just wanted to show Texas A&M by giving a spot to TCU.

Louisville was the obvious choice to be chosen. Good football, excellent basketball, excellent athletics, location. increased geographical footprint. The only thing TCU had to sell was their recent football success and BCS bowls while playing in the WAC......and a lot of drinks consumed.

 

[CYCLNST8]

If Texas left the first time around then Iowa State was either going to the Mac, or if they were "lucky" the Big East. You really think that's better than being in the Big12?

Of course not. And I'd take the AAC over the MAC. The only reason we still have a conference is because nine members enable Texas's bullying. They don't want the conference to succeed out of the kindness of their hearts.

 

[CYCLNST8]

Texas is like the bratty rich kid who is a total ****** but has a trust fund so the girls keep flirting with him. No one likes him - they just want to ride in his Ferarri - so he thinks he's hot ****.

I like to think of Texas as the hot slutty rich girl with herpes that idiots keep ******* anyways.

 

[trajanJ]

The reason TCU was taken instead of others was their recent football success and BCS bowl berth. Their basketball team sucked. And TCU was competing in the Mountain West Conference. BCS berth and an afternoon of drinks by the TCU AD and Dodds from Texas led to their invitation. Louisville would have been a better choice. And a partner for West Virginia. Louisville played in the Big East along with West Virginia and would have been the logical fit. TCU added nothing to the football imprint. Texas just wanted to show Texas A&M by giving a spot to TCU.

Louisville was the obvious choice to be chosen. Good football, excellent basketball, excellent athletics, location. increased geographical footprint. The only thing TCU had to sell was their recent football success and BCS bowls while playing in the WAC......and a lot of drinks consumed.

TCU was taken because they were the best available from the state of Texas. The Big 12 had to fill a Texas void that A&M left because UT wanted it that way.

 

[Stormin]

TCU was taken because they were the best available from the state of Texas. The Big 12 had to fill a Texas void that A&M left because UT wanted it that way.

Texas did it out of spite for Texas A&M. Louisville made so much more sense from any use of logic and reasoning.

 

[Stormin]

Interesting article from when TCU was invited to Big 12 and not BYU.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700185765/TCU-not-BYU-ends-up-receiving-Big-12-invite.html?pg=all

 

[kingcy]

TV subscriptions for Cable TV are what are driving the revenue for the SEC and Big Ten. It is not the live streaming.

Right now they are. That market is maxed out, and going to start to decline. They have to look to the future to find where the revenue is going to come from.

 

[kingcy]

I do agree with you but right now, none of those have access to college football games. And with the high cost of TV rights, I don't see them winning sole possession of the rights to games.

It will come fast. It wont be a 100% deal, with them. They will just pay to get a piece of the live events. TV will still be there but there will be other players/partners involved. Tech companies have the money now to make a huge move on getting some sort of broadcast rights.

 

[JD4560]

why didn't Louisville get invited then?

 

[cyIclSoneU]

For those pushing BYU. Understand that BYUtv includes religious programming and other shows in addition to some sports. Don't really see BYU giving that up. There are reasons why the Pac 12 did not take BYU.

The Big 12 already has two religious schools. The Pac-12 has zero. Very different story.

If we had a Big 12 Network and each school got a block of time to show their own programming for some reason, then I wouldn't care at all if BYU wanted to use theirs for Mormon programming, Baylor for Baptist programming, or TCU for some other Christian programming. If that would be a First Amendment issue because of public universities sponsoring the channel, then of course we have a different story. But I'm not sure that would be the case

 

[cyIclSoneU]

why didn't Louisville get invited then?

Because the Big 12 royally effed up and was short-sighted

The Big 12 could have a strong 12 member conference right now with Louisville and Pittsburgh and the ACC would either also have 12 or would have gotten to 14 likely with UConn and Cincinnati instead. But we missed that boat and it's over now

 

[RustShack]

Of course not. And I'd take the AAC over the MAC. The only reason we still have a conference is because nine members enable Texas's bullying. They don't want the conference to succeed out of the kindness of their hearts.

Well it was nice of Texas to bully us and give us equal revenue sharing on the tier one and two media rights.. Letting us make a lot more than we were before or what we would be without Texas.

 

[cycloneworld]

The reason TCU was taken instead of others was their recent football success and BCS bowl berth. Their basketball team sucked. And TCU was competing in the Mountain West Conference. BCS berth and an afternoon of drinks by the TCU AD and Dodds from Texas led to their invitation. Louisville would have been a better choice. And a partner for West Virginia. Louisville played in the Big East along with West Virginia and would have been the logical fit. TCU added nothing to the football imprint. Texas just wanted to show Texas A&M by giving a spot to TCU.

That's not even close to being true. TCU was brought in because of the Dallas/Ft Worth area plus it had Texas' backing. It had nothing to do with BCS bowls.

 

[CascadeClone]

Texas is like the bratty rich kid who is a total ****** but has a trust fund so the girls keep flirting with him. No one likes him - they just want to ride in his Ferarri - so he thinks he's hot ****.

So Texas is Johnny Manziel? That would have to be about the most insulting thing you could ever say to a Texas fan.

 

[Stormin]

That's not even close to being true. TCU was brought in because of the Dallas/Ft Worth area plus it had Texas' backing. It had nothing to do with BCS bowls.

Texas already gave us the Dallas Ft Worth area. We did not need TCU for that area. It had Texas' backing, but rest assured that if TCU had not had a lot of success and not been to BCS Bowls that they would be in the Big 12.