Day after Monday Musings: Football expectations
- Thread starter ChrisMWilliams
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I think you all are misconstruing what I am conveying. I am not saying ISU will win the game, I am not saying ISU will be good. I am just saying that an improved offense is going to help the defense. Also, someone made it seem like Iowa would roll ISU. And I was just merely making the point that ISU had its worst defense under CPR and they scored 27 points, so not to expect it to be a blow out. That doesn't mean it can't happen, or it won't happen, but I think over the last 15 years we can expect this game to be competitive.
As i pointed out earlier, ISU was a competent offense away from having 5 wins last year, if not more. No reason to think an offense that can have more series of longer than 6 plays then less than 6 plays will give a defense more time to rest and with more rest be better positioned to stop an offense.
Reasonable assessment of the probable wins, probable losses and the "maybes."
If I ranked most-to-least likely wins, here it is, with some factor of home-field advantage:
1. Toledo
2. North Dakota State
3. at Kansas
4. West Virginia
5. at TCU
6. Texas Tech
7. at Iowa
8. Kansas State
9. Baylor
10. at Oklahoma State
11. at Texas
12. Oklahoma*
*Unless this is the year ISU happens to somehow snap the historically depressing skid.
Infatuation????? I don't see any Cyclone Fanatics living on the Hawkeye Message Boards. It is the Hawkeyes that are infatuated as evidenced by their presence here on Cyclone Fanatic.
You can also find it on 49ers forums the year before they got good, and Chiefs forums two years ago. They kept the talent following a flop year, but added a high profile offensive coach and busted out.
I've got a question.
Where do CPR, Mangino, and Wally rank as a unit compared to other teams? Big12 and nationally.
Where do CPR, Mangino, and Wally rank as a unit compared to other teams? Big12 and nationally.
CycloneErik
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Waaaaaaaah. This is weak.
If you don't want to read them, use your ignore list.
The NFL is a far different animal than ISU in the B12. We have a plethora of built in disadvantages that NFL teams don't have to deal with, and a pro rebuild is a different process from a college rebuild. Total apples and oranges here.
Talking to some Hawkeye fans and reading some of the things they post on message boards one would think that Iowa has won several Rose Bowls and National Titles. They may not say they're Alabama, but they puff their chest out like they're in the top tier of college football.
You have unrealistic expectations if you think we can lose more starters than any other team in the Big12 and just carry on where we left off. You need chemistry at any level of football. We don't have the talent of Alabama where you can just plug in players and get away with raw athletic ability. We have to develop our players. If you follow football, it's actually normal for guys who weren't good year one to be real good year three or four.
Hell we didn't even get blown out every game. We lost five games by seven or less. A slightly better offense and who knows how many games we win. We don't have the injury bug and who knows what happens.
Few plays a game go a different way and 8 wins was within reach.
This is absolute garbage. You seem to want to try to have a rational discussion and be taken seriously, yet you feel it necessary to insult the audience. It's garbage like this that should answer the very question you pose at the beginning of this post.
It seems like people don't understand who our OC is, or what he does on offense everywhere he goes. Not thinking we will be bowl eligible makes sense if we didn't revamp the staff on offense. But we actually have a coach now that can make players look good. That's kind of scary with all the talent we've brought in recently for offense. He didn't even have NFL caliber players at Kansas but he made them out perform guys with the talent that went to the NFL.
My Cardinal colored glasses are broken and I haven't had any of the Kool Aid yet.
3 wins is what I see.
....and the 2015 season will be very important to the coaching staff
3 wins is what I see.
....and the 2015 season will be very important to the coaching staff
The problem with this statement is, 2 of those 3 LB's are now in the NFL, and you could argue all 3 should be. So, losing 3 LB's of that caliber, all at once, does not afford you "nearly" the same defense.
Hate to pee in the Cheerios here but with all of the excitement over Mangino I bring you a couple of sobering points. As an OC at Okie he had far better talent than what he will be working with here. As a head coach, he had the most conference wins against ISU than any other B12 team. Take away getting some wins against ISU and his win totals are rather pedestrian.
Mangino hasn't always started out with a great offense. His offenses were not even that good at Kansas until he got his personnel. Just because he is our OC going in his first year here doesn't mean that our offense is suddenly going to be amazing all of the sudden. Someone people on here think we will suddenly score 30 ppg this year. Those people are crazy and are going to be in for a surprise when it will be more like 22-23 ppg.
