OU @ KU

[twocoach]

ISU player should have just lay there getting pancake blocked after he was steamrolled with no call. You have shown us the light with your amazing troll knowledge.

Did Niang hit him on the arm or not?

 

[kentkel]

You are so jaded that you cannot even figure what the foul was that was called. Niang and Johnson both grabbed for the ball as it dropped to them as they both laid in a heap on the floor. Johnson got the the ball first and passed out to the perimeter. Niang was a little slower and when grabbing for the ball ended up whacking Johnson's arms as he passed the ball out. It was a clear foul, you can see Niang's hand draped down Johnson's right forearm. Your distaste of it is just fueled by the previous no call and the result. Niang wasn't called for "just laying on the ground with a KU player on top of him".

In my post, I addressed this. The ref, by not calling a charge, despite bodies flying, was indicating that the end of the game would be decided by the players and NOT by a ref "going out of their way" to call a foul. His next decision, calling the foul on Niang (which did not impede the pass of the KU player in any way) was INCONSISTENT with the previous decision. THAT is what is frustrating about that game.

 

[DreamyCy]

Did Niang hit him on the arm or not?

Was your player laying on top of our player?

 

[kentkel]

Oh, and by the way Twocoach, still haven't heard your explanation of the Phantom 3 at the Phog video I posted. Even a die-hard KU alum at my work admitted the screw-job on that one.

 

[KidSilverhair]

The answer is not "yes", it is "possibly". ISU was up by two and would have been sending a freshman to line line to ice the game. Kansas still had a timeout left and there were still 5 seconds left on the clock. That's more than enough time to advance the ball the length of the court and get up a shot to tie or win the game if Niang misses either one of the free throws. I have seen at least a half dozen games easily this year already where a team has made a tough shot in the last few seconds to win. Johnson had already hit two tough threes in the previous 24 seconds; it's not hard to picture him hitting one more.

You know, you're right. You KNOW exactly what would have happened ... ISU would have made only one of the foul shots, then Kansas would have gotten the ball back down the floor in the final 5 seconds and somebody .. McLemore, maybe? ... would have banked in a three to tie it at the buzzer. KU rolls easily in OT.

It's science!

And with that, I promise I will never open this thread again. I, for one, will not be keeping this outdated thread open.

(Can you believe twocoach has already posted nearly 800 times on this board since January? WTH?)

 

[sunset]

Trolls are getting out of hand on this board. Alternate points of view are one thing, trolls like this are another. Thank goodness there is no limit to the "ignore list".

My parting advice to our dear friend twocoach is, in the parlance of our times, to: "do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me?"

 

[ribsnwhiskey]

Helpful hint: click on settings button at top right hand corner. Click on 'edit ignore users list'. Type in 'twocoach'. Apply.

Profit.

 

[twocoach]

In my post, I addressed this. The ref, by not calling a charge, despite bodies flying, was indicating that the end of the game would be decided by the players and NOT by a ref "going out of their way" to call a foul. His next decision, calling the foul on Niang (which did not impede the pass of the KU player in any way) was INCONSISTENT with the previous decision. THAT is what is frustrating about that game.

That is simply YOUR OPINION of what he was doing. By not calling a charge he was simply saying that he did not believe that what he saw warranted callign a foul. It had no promise of not calling anything else he saw moving forward. That's a ridiculous notion. If you think that is how referees work then you are doomed to a lifetime of being frustrated.

 

[twocoach]

Helpful hint: click on settings button at top right hand corner. Click on 'edit ignore users list'. Type in 'twocoach'. Apply.Profit.

Even faster: click on my user name in any of my posts to view my profile and then click "Add To Ignore List" listed on the left. Much more efficient.

 

[twocoach]

You know, you're right. You KNOW exactly what would have happened ... ISU would have made only one of the foul shots, then Kansas would have gotten the ball back down the floor in the final 5 seconds and somebody .. McLemore, maybe? ... would have banked in a three to tie it at the buzzer. KU rolls easily in OT.It's science!And with that, I promise I will never open this thread again. I, for one, will not be keeping this outdated thread open.(Can you believe twocoach has already posted nearly 800 times on this board since January? WTH?)

The whole point is that you DON'T know what would happen, thus the outcome of the game was NOT decided by the call made by the ref. And since KU DID roll easily in OT that isn't exactly a crazy notion.

 

[carvers4math]

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So with enough people doing this, will banhammer fall?

 

[cmjh10]

So with enough people doing this, will banhammer fall?

He might get bored and go troll another bored

 

[ThurgoodMarshal]

Even faster: click on my user name in any of my posts to view my profile and then click "Add To Ignore List" listed on the left. Much more efficient.

I guess I just don't understand your motive for posting on this message board. Obviously you're just trying to troll and get people upset. I know Iowa is almost as boring as Kansas but you've gotta have something better do to than instigating fights with strangers on the internet, right? Go spend some time with that 10 year old daughter of yours (which we all totally believe is real, not) instead of hiding behind a computer monitor.

 

[HFCS]

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Profit.

Just did this for him, never felt the need to for anyone else, which is saying a lot given the amount of Iowa fans on here.

 

[twocoach]

Oh, and by the way Twocoach, still haven't heard your explanation of the Phantom 3 at the Phog video I posted. Even a die-hard KU alum at my work admitted the screw-job on that one.

I can't view videos here at work, so I had no idea which one of the typical whines it was. I assumed it was one of the Core Four. I have stated numerous times in other threads that that was obviously a terrible job of communication by the refs. The ref that called the foul indicated it was a two shot foul but the ref that gave the ball to the shooter at the line indicated to all the players around the lane that it was a 1 and 1. That was why all the players went after the missed first shot and played on. I do not know what the rules were in 2004 about whether they were allowed to simply wave off the entire ordeal and start over with the second free throw or not once they realized what happened. It seems like that's what should have been done but again, I don't know what the rules are in a situation like that. What is clear is that they screwed up monumentally. I agree 100% on that.

 

[rholtgraves]

The league doesn't apologize for 50/50 calls.
#fact

 

[ribsnwhiskey]

So with enough people doing this, will banhammer fall?

Nah, but maybe he'll slink away. Plus we can all talk about him and make fun of him and not have to deal with his responses.

 

[kentkel]

That is simply YOUR OPINION of what he was doing. By not calling a charge he was simply saying that he did not believe that what he saw warranted callign a foul. It had no promise of not calling anything else he saw moving forward. That's a ridiculous notion. If you think that is how referees work then you are doomed to a lifetime of being frustrated.

Well, here's what Jim Boeheim had to say in a similar situation this year: "That was the game-decider right there," Boeheim said. "I would have been happy with a no-call, let the players finish the game and see what happens. But it was a great game, tremendously well officiated game, I just disagree with that last call."
It seems to me that JB has a lot more knowledge, than you or I combined, of what a referee usually thinks at the end of a tight game. He wouldn't have used the line that I bolded if that thought process isn't often part of the official's thinking. I referee many AAU ballgames & that is one thing that my partner and I talk about as well. It doesn't mean that we WON'T make a call at the end of a close game, but it's going to have to be quite obvious.

 

[kucyclone]

(Can you believe twocoach has already posted nearly 800 times on this board since January? WTH?)

This is just sad.

 

[alarson]

So with enough people doing this, will banhammer fall?

This would be the button youre looking for instead for that.