Yes, it is. But you expect for Iowa State officals to be contacted, gather information, put out an alert and for all of the students and faculty to recieve the alert and act appropriatly in the less than two minutes it probably took the driver to get from the corner of Beach and Lincoln Way to central campus?
Car chase and shots fired
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Yes, it is. But you expect for Iowa State officals to be contacted, gather information, put out an alert and for all of the students and faculty to recieve the alert and act appropriatly in the less than two minutes it probably took the driver to get from the corner of Beach and Lincoln Way to central campus?
Yeah I can't think of a problem with using the alert every time something happens near campus, there's no chance that people would very quickly disregard them when they frequently turn out to be nothing.
Since when is it ok to kill someone because you think they might have a gun? If he was on a mission to kill than he missed a lot of easy targets during the chase. If he was stuck and trying to get out why couldn't they just block him in with their vehicles?
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from what I have read it sounds like the truck was stuck in the grass on campus with several cop cars surrounding it. If the cars got close enough the block him in, which would seem like standard procedure, then the truck was not going anywhere, even if it did get unstuck. Obviously I don't know all the details, but firing 6 shots into the truck does seem like an overreaction based on the information provided.
Maybe the cop saw him moving again right at him.
Maybe the cop saw him moving again right at him.
Furthermore, he had already tried to hurt/kill a cop. You don't back a trailer up on the hood of an occupied police car as some sort of demonstration of affection or submission. After a criminal pulls something like that, how are the cops supposed to guess what his intentions are? All they have to go on is what the criminal's actions have demonstrated, and this criminal's actions during the chase repeatedly demonstrated no regard for other human life.
I don't understand why people think that cops should repeatedly give a criminal opportunities to harm them during said criminal's apprehension. This person had tried to previously hurt a cop, was given multiple opportunities to surrender and didn't, and was in a functioning vehicle trying to move again. Why should the police allow the guy more chances to inflict harm?
Boy do I hope cops don't think the way you do. You don't use deadly force because you are afraid what someone may do. Perhaps, when he was in the act of ramming the police vehilce, you would then be justified in attempting to use deadly force. But once a vehicle is stuck, surrounded by police, why would you need to put 6 bullets in a guy?
This is the exact reason against using deadly force. The suspect is now dead, so we now only get to hear the police side of the story. I'm sure the police will do some half-assed investigation about the surrounding circumstances and clear the police officer. We will never know what led them to be justified in using force.
I work in a job where I see bad police work every day. I have come to be extremely skeptical about their tactics. I just have trouble with police ever using deadly force based on the extenuated presumption that the person has the intent to cause harm to others. Police know there is serious risk in their job-- so I have a hard time with them essentially saying "well we fired on the guy because we were afraid he'd hurt us."
It's not what he may do, it's what he already had done, that includes stealing a car, running from police, backing up onto a police car, and endangering lives by driving the wrong way on a one way street and onto central campus.
Hey you in the car that we just chased onto the lawn and into this tree, hang tight while we call your dad!
When the dad reported the situation related to the kid taking the truck the operator asked "is he armed?", to which the dad replied "no". According to other policemen in Ames, when the dispatcher called the information over the radio she stated "the driver is not armed".
C'mon now, be realistic. The pursuing officer would have had him on this cell phone as they chased him through campus.
Unfortunately he was armed with a 2,000 lb vehicle which he seemed intent on using in the most reckless way possible.
Maybe I just watch cops too much but I have seen countless other insinstances where they have a suspect surrounded slowly approach the vehicle while the suspect continues to not respond amd eventually pull them out or disable the vehicle safely. However these are usually larher cities where this is much more common, lack of proper training on Ames part possibly?
Who knows, hindsight is 20/20.
Who knows, hindsight is 20/20.
This.
Not being a dumb*** = Not getting shot. I have no problems with the police ending the chase in whatever means necessary. If the truck were to get away and run over even 1 innocent student, just think of the outrage toward the police for not disarming (removing weapon aka truck) the driver.
If this were in the middle of nowhere, I might have an issue. On campus, not so much.
Lol, I had no idea what a truck like that weighs off the top of my head, 2,000 seemed like a good number.I didn't know he was driving a Mini.
