Tom Herman to Ohio State (Confirmed)
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Re: Herman to Ohio State?
I think his offense will finally be up to full speed next year, with recruiting his type of players, and everyone being very familiar with the offense. Hope he stays around a few more.
I think his offense will finally be up to full speed next year, with recruiting his type of players, and everyone being very familiar with the offense. Hope he stays around a few more.
Re: Herman to Ohio State?
I'm pretty sure of that as well.
I just wish we had an up and coming future OC as an assistant on staff.
I'm pretty sure of that as well.
I just wish we had an up and coming future OC as an assistant on staff.
Re: Herman to Ohio State?
Losing Pete Hoener(sp?) in the early 2000's killed us and set our program back big time. I'd hate for this to happen again.
Losing Pete Hoener(sp?) in the early 2000's killed us and set our program back big time. I'd hate for this to happen again.
Re: Herman to Ohio State?
If we needed someone to run our offense in a pinch, you'd guess a guy like Messingham.
If we needed someone to run our offense in a pinch, you'd guess a guy like Messingham.
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6 weeks ago I would have been ecstatic to hear that TH would leave. However, his turnaround with Barnett has been remarkable. I think he is the right guy for ISU now. I hope he gives us a couple more years. It would be nice if we can find that OC in waiting and get him on the staff. Maybe some D2 or D3 young OC that has really shown something?
6 weeks ago I would have been ecstatic to hear that TH would leave. However, his turnaround with Barnett has been remarkable. I think he is the right guy for ISU now. I hope he gives us a couple more years. It would be nice if we can find that OC in waiting and get him on the staff. Maybe some D2 or D3 young OC that has really shown something?
Re: Herman to Ohio State?
Here is where ISU has ranked in the Big 12 as far as scoring offense for Herman's 3 years:
2009: 12/12 at 20.5 ppg
2010: 11/12 at 21.7 ppg
2011: 9/10 at 23.5 ppg
The average scoring offense in the Big 12 this year was 34.6 ppg. Nationally this year, ISU is 86th in ppg. There is no way ISU can make any moves beyond 6-6 playing in the Big 12 with that kind of offense production. This offense isn't anywhere close to where it needs to be after three years.
I sure hope the folks who say these problems are mostly talent-related are right. I kind of doubt it myself...
Here is where ISU has ranked in the Big 12 as far as scoring offense for Herman's 3 years:
2009: 12/12 at 20.5 ppg
2010: 11/12 at 21.7 ppg
2011: 9/10 at 23.5 ppg
The average scoring offense in the Big 12 this year was 34.6 ppg. Nationally this year, ISU is 86th in ppg. There is no way ISU can make any moves beyond 6-6 playing in the Big 12 with that kind of offense production. This offense isn't anywhere close to where it needs to be after three years.
I sure hope the folks who say these problems are mostly talent-related are right. I kind of doubt it myself...
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Re: Herman to Ohio State?
You are thinking of Steve Loney. ISU did lose him to the NFL the second time.
You are thinking of Steve Loney. ISU did lose him to the NFL the second time.
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No, I know who Steve Loney is but I'm talking about Hoener who I believe went to Texas A&M. IIRC he was the one who implemented the "Cyclone" offense that everyone in the country started copying. It was the one where we'd always put JJ Moses in motion on almost every play and there was always the option for the reverse.
No, I know who Steve Loney is but I'm talking about Hoener who I believe went to Texas A&M. IIRC he was the one who implemented the "Cyclone" offense that everyone in the country started copying. It was the one where we'd always put JJ Moses in motion on almost every play and there was always the option for the reverse.
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Looks like Hoener left after '99 so Loney must have taken over for him and kept the same scheme.
Looks like Hoener left after '99 so Loney must have taken over for him and kept the same scheme.
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Wow, people are acting like the program falls apart if Herman leaves. Let him go if he thinks that will end up being good for him. He hasn't reinvented the spread offense. This isn't even the spread offence he ran at Rice, that was a pass based spread, we are a run based spread offense. The offense picked up this season when JB entered the lineup because he comes from a spread offense background. Steele didn't. It's not that hard to call for a read option on 60% of the play calls.
Wow, people are acting like the program falls apart if Herman leaves. Let him go if he thinks that will end up being good for him. He hasn't reinvented the spread offense. This isn't even the spread offence he ran at Rice, that was a pass based spread, we are a run based spread offense. The offense picked up this season when JB entered the lineup because he comes from a spread offense background. Steele didn't. It's not that hard to call for a read option on 60% of the play calls.
Re: Herman to Ohio State?
i live in Ohio and have some quality inside info into the OSU program. They told me it is a done deal. Herman is going to Ohio State to be the QB Coach.
i live in Ohio and have some quality inside info into the OSU program. They told me it is a done deal. Herman is going to Ohio State to be the QB Coach.
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I have a source that told me Herman was going to Florida.
I have a source that told me Herman was going to Florida.
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Even if you are a troll, where there is smoke, there is fire. I just have a bad gut feeling about Herman leaving.
Re: Herman to Ohio State?
@elevenwarriors Eleven Warriors
Hearing that Iowa State's Tom Herman will be Urban's QB coach. Good background here:
@elevenwarriors Eleven Warriors Hearing that Iowa State's Tom Herman will be Urban's QB coach. Good background here:
Re: Herman to Ohio State?
Move makes no sense, unless he had been told by CPr that he was on the hot seat.
Move makes no sense, unless he had been told by CPr that he was on the hot seat.
