*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

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Right now they are sitting at 90% of 2-years worth of revenue distributions if they leave this summer.

My understanding is that our buyout will be in the same neighborhood as TAMU. $20-30M. Serious cash.

I hope that the remaining teams use that money to benefit their programs as productively as we all did with the CU and NU buyout money.

Oh, that's right. We all decided to fork the whole thing over to UT and OU as a bribe...uh, THANK YOU, for not leaving the conference.
 

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My understanding is that our buyout will be in the same neighborhood as TAMU. $20-30M. Serious cash.

I hope that the remaining teams use that money to benefit their programs as productively as we all did with the CU and NU buyout money.

Oh, that's right. We all decided to fork the whole thing over to UT and OU as a bribe...uh, THANK YOU, for not leaving the conference.

OU and Texas rejected the "bribe".
 
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Couple of things I disagree with:

First, adding TCU is a cinch, compared to just about any other team. Why? First, they're between conferences right now, and the buyout or waiting periods don't apply. Second, they're a private religiously affiliated school. They don't answer to taxpayers or gov't officials, and they aren't required to make their dealings public.

I know some think that there is a decision to be made by Mizzou, but it's already BEEN made. It was made before the Curators gave Deaton permission to look around a few weeks ago. Now it's just a process of making sure that the move is executed according to Big 12 bylaws, open records laws, and the SEC's liking.

That's about 2 months from when it was first reported to when the University publically acknowledged their decision. I wouldn't call that "dragging it out."

Let's be realistic: fan impatience with the decision making process is NOT a consideration for any school.

Even if I accept your argument that public, sectarian universities are required to make such decisions because they answer to taxpayers and government officials (and I don't), your counter-example of TCU doesn't do a thing to explain why NU/CU/Utah/Pitt were able to pull this off so quickly. Try again.

Do you know that Missery has already made their decision? Do you have connections or first-hand knowledge of these very high-level, secret discussions? Have you pored through the by-laws to know that this is required protocol? Or, are you simply making a guess and attempting to pass it along as fact? My money's on the latter. You're doing everyone a disservice by pretending to know what you're talking about.

2 months IS dragging it out, especially when it takes up half of the regular playing season and everyone else seems to get their ducks in a row and publicly make a decision within a week, tops.

Of course fan impatience is not a factor, but that's just one small inconvenience among dozens of other, more salient ones. The Big 12 members, presidents, and athletic directors would surely like for Missery to pull their head out of their *** and let their decision be known so that they can go about determining the composition of the conference. The Big East is in the same boat. No doubt TV networks would like for you to make up your damned mind, too. This dilatory junk has serious logistical and economic implications, and it's disgraceful that Missery thinks little of holding the rest of the NCAA hostage while they ponder whether to dump all over 120 years of history for a slightly larger paycheck (maybe) and a supposedly more stable conference.

Quit with all of the bogus rationalization. This whole thing absolutely stinks, and there's no way you're going to be able to convince anyone otherwise if all you're going to do is spout out phony information and make illogical straw-man arguments. You know if the shoe were on the other foot, you'd feel the same way; it's too bad that your love for the hillbillies has to cloud what is probably otherwise fairly good judgment. If Iowa State were pulling this crap with the MWC or Big East, I'd be the first to admit that it's asinine behavior, because that's what any objective, reasonable person would think.
 

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My understanding is that our buyout will be in the same neighborhood as TAMU. $20-30M. Serious cash.

I hope that the remaining teams use that money to benefit their programs as productively as we all did with the CU and NU buyout money.

Oh, that's right. We all decided to fork the whole thing over to UT and OU as a bribe...uh, THANK YOU, for not leaving the conference.


Are you out of your mind or drunk posting?

OU and UT rejected the idea up front. The only school that the money was offered to was AtM, and only if the new TV contract didn't guarantee them a certain level of compensation. It did. But they left anyway.

Object lesson: If somebody wants to leave the conference, they will find a way to justify it. No matter the concessions you might make to them. They should just go, so that they can be replaced by a school who doesn't share their insecurities.
 
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My understanding is that our buyout will be in the same neighborhood as TAMU. $20-30M. Serious cash.

I hope that the remaining teams use that money to benefit their programs as productively as we all did with the CU and NU buyout money.

Oh, that's right. We all decided to fork the whole thing over to UT and OU as a bribe...uh, THANK YOU, for not leaving the conference.

You don't do very well with facts do you? Texas, OU, and A&M received no more buyout money than any other team.
 

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My understanding is that our buyout will be in the same neighborhood as TAMU. $20-30M. Serious cash.

I hope that the remaining teams use that money to benefit their programs as productively as we all did with the CU and NU buyout money.

Oh, that's right. We all decided to fork the whole thing over to UT and OU as a bribe...uh, THANK YOU, for not leaving the conference.

why should mizzou pay the same as a&m? We are halfway through the season and you haven't even left yet.
 

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why should mizzou pay the same as a&m? We are halfway through the season and you haven't even left yet.

The bylaws have a breakoff at 1 year and at 6 months. A&M announced at less than a year and as long as Missouri decides before Christmas they are in the same window.
 

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The bylaws have a breakoff at 1 year and at 6 months. A&M announced at less than a year and as long as Missouri decides before Christmas they are in the same window.

I get they hit the same time under the bylaws. But i assume a&m is paying a negotiated buyout and the biylaws probably dont mention that. If that is the case, I don't believe mizzou should pay same negotiated buyout. If a&m is paying full thing, then I am okay with mizzou paying the same.
 

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The bylaws have a breakoff at 1 year and at 6 months. A&M announced at less than a year and as long as Missouri decides before Christmas they are in the same window.

Copy of my earlier post:

Right now Missouri is sitting at 90% of 2-years worth of revenue distributions if they leave this summer.

2-year notice = forfeit of 50% of 2-year revenue (or number of years until withdraw if greater than 2 years)
<2-years but >18-months = forfeit of 70% of 2-year revenue equivalent
<18-months but >12-months = forfeit of 80% of 2-year revenue equivalent
<12-months but >6-months = forfeit of 90% of 2-year revenue equivalent
<6-months notice = forfeit of 100% of 2-year revenue equivalent



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im4cyclones

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Mizzou to leave tomorrow? About damn time!

Three separate sources have told PowerMizzou.com Deaton is expected to inform the Big 12 Conference that Missouri will conditionally withdraw from the league on Monday.
 

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Dont see why we'd do WVU alone. Should add at least 2 other BE teams with them for travel if nothing else.
 
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