The official 'I hate Pau Gasol' thread

clones_jer

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Wow, this discussion is getting very juvenile. You would think some of these guys were killing Americans in a war or something.

Thanks for adding to the conversation Mike.

We know basketball isn't war - you can go home now.
 

BryceC

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You are 125% incorrect and Facts disagree with. Give me 5 and I will show you that NBA scoring has declined by 17 points in the past 20 years.

NBA scoring from the Hollinger article:
2003: 94.3 PPG
NBA scoring from NBA.com
2009: 99.9 PPG

I can't find 1992, stupid firewall.
 

Clones85'

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NBA scoring from the Hollinger article:
2003: 94.3 PPG
NBA scoring from NBA.com
2009: 99.9 PPG

I can't find 1992, stupid firewall.

I can't find the 90's either. But was jer not talking about the 80's Pistons teams? I was responding to that. I mean 110 points a game is a ton
 

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I can't find the 90's either. But was jer not talking about the 80's Pistons teams? I was responding to that. I mean 110 points a game is a ton

Agreed, and I think we can all agree the NBA from the late 90s to about 2005 was pretty bad basketball. Scoring was low, there were few likeable superstars, and the league was loaded with guys in off court trouble. Since then scoring has increased significantly, lots of great, likeable players, and some old teams are being revived. The league is a lot better now. I don't know how it compares to the early 90s scoring wise but it is getting better and the league is doing things to liven things up.
 

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By moving the 3 point line back!! How does that make scoring easier?


You are really showing that you don't understand basketball with this comment. Most who understand the game know that moving the line back does several things to facilitate more scoring.

- 3pt shooting percentage improves since only the guys who should be shooting it shoot it
- Creates more spacing for post players to work and more spacing for penetrators to get to the hoop
- Makes it harder to double team perimeter players


The statistics show this to be true as well. This is why the NCAA moved the line back too, because of the success the NBA had with moving it back.
 

snowcraig2.0

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Agreed, and I think we can all agree the NBA from the late 90s to about 2005 was pretty bad basketball. Scoring was low, there were few likeable superstars, and the league was loaded with guys in off court trouble. Since then scoring has increased significantly, lots of great, likeable players, and some old teams are being revived. The league is a lot better now. I don't know how it compares to the early 90s scoring wise but it is getting better and the league is doing things to liven things up.

The biggest problem with that era was the two of the most likeable and talented guys got hurt and never were the same. (referring to Grant Hill and Penny Hardaway)
 

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You are really showing that you don't understand basketball with this comment. Most who understand the game know that moving the line back does several things to facilitate more scoring.

- 3pt shooting percentage improves since only the guys who should be shooting it shoot it FG shooting has not improved and individual 3 pt numbers for the top shooters has not either (obviously). Guys that shot 3's before (KG went from 56 to 11) still shoot the same shot but it is no longer considered a 3
- Creates more spacing for post players to work and more spacing for penetrators to get to the hoop (True but they didn't change the lane size, so while the big men have more room, it is also easier for them to contest a PG driving to the lane while on defense)
- Makes it harder to double team perimeter players


The statistics show this to be true as well. This is why the NCAA moved the line back too, because of the success the NBA had with moving it back.

NBA moved the line back the first time b/c guys were hitting 3's at an alarming rate. Dennis Scott broke the record for 3's in a season and they immediately changed the rule