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Discussion in 'Football' started by NATEizKING, Mar 19, 2020.
you’re responding to a hawk fan
So you are saying "stars mean nothing.' Then how does the best teams year after year also have the most 4 and 5 star players on the team, but the lower ranked schools rarely do?
I suppose Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Ohio State and Oklahoma are just out coaching everyone year after year.
Well because you picked and choose a couple classes that shows that is correct. You want dumb, there it is.
The higher ranked the recruits a team gets the better chance they have to win more games. Do outliers happen, sure do, but not often and not in football.
I stand by my statement, we are getting our ass kicked in instate recruiting, until that shores up, its going to be difficult, to move up in the standings and bowls.
The “stars don’t matter” advocates love to bring up the lightly recruited players who pan out, but never seem to mention the misses. Iowa fans used to have the same arguments, but those largely have died down after the 2008 and 2009 recruiting classes. Iowa brought in two classes of almost entirely “underrated sleepers,” and many didn’t care because Ferentz had such a great track record of developing those guys. Those classes turned out a few really good players (Micah Hyde and Brett Van Sloten), but the vast majority of those guys were complete whiffs. It depleted the talent on the roster, and next thing you know Iowa goes 4-8 in 2012 and Ferentz is on the hot seat.
Stars and offers absolutely matter but we're not going to bring baseball back for a marginal Midwest recruit. If we had to start up baseball to get Hutchinson, Jackson or Tampa that's a different story
Brecht has said that his decision was based entirely on Football. We didn't miss out on Brecht because we don't have a baseball program.
All that Oliver Martin tape must have pushed him over the edge.
I like Iowa kids that want to be at Iowa State...like these guys.
In state recruiting should be a priority. We need players that understand what is important to us. It is tougher to get short 3-stars from Texas to care about Iowa athletics.
ISU fans are just jealous we can't provide the same opportunity.
You're really bad at this
You mean the guy that never lost to ISU that guy?
Steele Jantz never lost to Iowa. What's your point?
Might not have the figures totally correct but I think Iowa has signed 10 guys who have ISU offers in the 2021 class, while ISU has signed 0 who have Iowa offers. Beyond just in state guys that is a concerning trend.
A surefire high-level prospect like Fidone or Boller is very different than mid level guys (like most of the in-state guys Iowa has). When it's all said and done if Iowa ends up with a much bigger chunk of the class (than usual) populated by in staters, the resulting mono culture is bound to cause second guessing at some point down the road. This could backfire on them where they think they have a much better class that they actually do talent wise.