The Iowa fanbase is the very definition of fair weather fans. They boo their team in week 1. Enough said.
Williams & Blum today- FB attendance
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What's the actual number of tickets left? Last I heard it's like 500, which means they've sold 99% of the tickets. Which doesn't seem like something to be freaking out about.
Anyways I'm excited for the whites only game! Should be a cool experience!
Anyways I'm excited for the whites only game! Should be a cool experience!
This is a valid point. For the past 12 years, the only variety in the schedule has been one or two non-conference games. One good thing about a 16 school conference will be a little increase in variety on the schedule.
Not having to spend anything to support MBB frees up a lot of money for them though.
There's about 200 available on ticketmaster right now, but that includes singles and may not include all unsold if some aren't listed to the public .
Nobody wants to pull money out of the growing stock market.
True but they show up for football games, which we are talking about here, attendance at football games.
Winning spoils the fan base, the more you win, the more they want and expect it. We keep winning at a high rate, and I would expect the ISU fan base to do the same.
I did a quick count and looks like there are about 150 tickets left from the ticket office.
That includes singles, but not anything like suites etc.
I do notice one day tickets show gone or almost gone in a section then the next there are several more available. Especially in visitor sections, which I assume those are from Baylor releasing their extra seats. So as long as more of those dont pop up we look to be very close.
That includes singles, but not anything like suites etc.
I do notice one day tickets show gone or almost gone in a section then the next there are several more available. Especially in visitor sections, which I assume those are from Baylor releasing their extra seats. So as long as more of those dont pop up we look to be very close.
I’m just trying to figure out how having success in the previous season while not losing to two G5 schools is a driving force for attendance numbers.
Oh wait in 2022 we went 4-8 and lost 8 of the last 9 games, then started 2023 2-3 with that loss to Ohio yet ended with the second highest average attendance somehow last year at over 60k.
Well I guess to defend the folks actually claiming this on here, we did beat SEMO and Ohio in 2022 and had phenomenal attendance in 2023, so maybe that really is the key, just don’t lose to G5 schools. You can lose to everyone else and we will still show up. Just ignore the absolute **** show the conference season was to spark all that interest in 2023.
2016 finished 3-9 with a loss to UNI and yet in 2017 had the fourth highest average attendance ever.
2012 finished 6-7 with a, you guessed it, loss to freaking Tulsa in…Memphis of all places. Well in 2013 we had the 8th highest average attendance mark in school history.
Hell I will even throw in our 2021 season. We didn’t lose to G5 schools and lost to Clemson in the bowl game. But that year was the one everyone was jazzed for and the team flopped. Yet despite that, 2022 saw the 5th highest average attendance ever.
Point is the data doesn’t back up anything whatsoever about losing to G5 schools or bowl games or whatever the previous year. There are about 50 other reasons that impact attendance and season ticket sales year over year first.
Oh wait in 2022 we went 4-8 and lost 8 of the last 9 games, then started 2023 2-3 with that loss to Ohio yet ended with the second highest average attendance somehow last year at over 60k.
Well I guess to defend the folks actually claiming this on here, we did beat SEMO and Ohio in 2022 and had phenomenal attendance in 2023, so maybe that really is the key, just don’t lose to G5 schools. You can lose to everyone else and we will still show up. Just ignore the absolute **** show the conference season was to spark all that interest in 2023.
2016 finished 3-9 with a loss to UNI and yet in 2017 had the fourth highest average attendance ever.
2012 finished 6-7 with a, you guessed it, loss to freaking Tulsa in…Memphis of all places. Well in 2013 we had the 8th highest average attendance mark in school history.
Hell I will even throw in our 2021 season. We didn’t lose to G5 schools and lost to Clemson in the bowl game. But that year was the one everyone was jazzed for and the team flopped. Yet despite that, 2022 saw the 5th highest average attendance ever.
Point is the data doesn’t back up anything whatsoever about losing to G5 schools or bowl games or whatever the previous year. There are about 50 other reasons that impact attendance and season ticket sales year over year first.
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Different ideas of what a "fortune" is when it comes to watching sports over the course of a season I guess. I have more important things to spend money on right now.
Sure but if we don't win this year I think we miss our window. This is the last 'normal' year of college football. The $22 million kicks in next season and it just happens to coincide with the SEC and B1G media revenue increase to nearly 100 million a year. Give those two conferences a scheduling embargo and automatic bids and the writing is on the wall.
I love ISU but financially we are midgets and this is not the time to be as such.
A few issues here.
Most of the seasons you mentioned were after we expanded, so they will of course be higher than previous, especially the years we didnt count the hills.
Second all the years you mentioned but 1 are years CyHawk was home. That is a huge bump in season ticket sales just to get that game.
But overall ISUs ticket sales have not had a have not been completely dependant on production of the team. Although I would suggest actual attendance by season ticket holders and single game ticket sales take a hit on years we have not performed well.
Yeah, the podcasts recently have certainly painted a bleak picture for what this is going to look like in 5-10 years. Between P2 rigging the system, the pay scale that can't be afforded, the fact that even the current level of success seems to be hanging on many of our key players playing for below market rates (not sustainable over the long term most likely), etc.
A lot of us called that when NIL rolled out and people have used the recent success as their evidence it wasn't going to kill us, but I think its just something that doesn't happen instantly but over time. Maybe it can be sustained longer while we don't have coaching turnover, but that kind of thing is inevitable eventually too.
We recruit a very specific kind of player here. I love them and don't want to change that but it's fool hardy to believe are going to keep these players at 10-20% market value for much longer. If we can make the playoffs I see a chance people start paying more. If not, more of the average which in our case it's bottom 20%.
Bought my first season tickets in 1976. Won/loss records from the previous year has no bearing on my season ticket purchase decisions. Probably because I can’t remember last year…
I generally agree with your whole post, but I wanted to address just the above sentence:
Calling their home schedule a "little better" is really underplaying how much better it is than ours. I'd kill to have those schools come to Ames. And even though they're garbage by every metric, Northwestern is another team in a neighboring state, which matters at least a bit in these things. We literally don't share a border with any team we play at home this season, and they have 3 such teams, plus the in-state rival coming to town.
I think the P2 and television networks are much much much more at fault for what's to come than NIL. And, regardless, NIL was going to happen no matter what, because disallowing it in the first place was 100% illegal.
If the other conferences and TV networks had the good of the sport in mind in any way, all schools in major conferences would be much better equipped to handle it
Could we all make an effort to stop calling it “NIL”?
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Cool, so you got nothing. Like I said, to say it had no effect is ignorant. I'm not arguing the impact is great, but there is an impact even if there is just "ten people who actually didn’t get tickets due to that".
To add my two cents, I stopped getting season tickets years ago and haven't been to a game in Ames since the 2021 OSU game. My reasoning is my group of friends mostly have stopped going as they have grown up and had kids, and the fact that the experience watching on TV is becoming much better then being there in person.
Each of the last four seasons I've attended a road game and made a weekend trip out of it to experience some other cities, and it's been pretty awesome. Will possibly do Utah this year depending on how the next few weeks go. Definitely will be at the KU game as well since I live 13 miles from Arrowhead.
