Williams & Blum today- FB attendance
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From 1966-75, ISU had 13 home and 24 road non-conference games. Even the JTS stadium opener in '75 was originally supposed to be a road game. The short version of the story is that ISU could bank more money playing road games in larger stadiums than it could playing home games at Clyde Williams.
ISU even gave up a home game against Oklahoma in 1964 because the gate revenue was better from playing in Norman than in Ames.
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1. The administration at Nebraska would have called this game a sellout two weeks ago.
2. This game will most likely be the highest-attended Big 12 game all season that is not at BYU or is the conference championship. Let's not lose perspective.
1. BYU | Lavell Edwards Stadium | 62,073
2. Iowa State | Jack Trice Stadium | 61,500
3. Texas Tech | Jones AT&T Stadium | 60,454
4. West Virginia | Milan Puskar Stadium | 60,000
5. Arizona State | Mountain America Stadium | 53,599
6. Oklahoma State | Boone Pickens Stadium | 52,305
7. Utah | Rice-Eccles Stadium | 51,444
8. Arizona | Arizona Stadium | 50,800
9. Colorado | Folsom Field | 50,183
10. Kansas State | Bill Snyder Family Stadium | 50,000
11. TCU | Amon G. Carter Stadium | 46,000
12. Baylor | McLane Stadium | 45,140
13. UCF | FBC Mortgage Stadium | 44,206
14. Kansas | David Booth Memorial Stadium | Low 40,000s (Opening in Fall 2025)
15. Houston | TDECU Stadium | 40,000
16. Cincinnati | Carson Field at Historic Nippert Stadium | 38,007
2. This game will most likely be the highest-attended Big 12 game all season that is not at BYU or is the conference championship. Let's not lose perspective.
1. BYU | Lavell Edwards Stadium | 62,073
2. Iowa State | Jack Trice Stadium | 61,500
3. Texas Tech | Jones AT&T Stadium | 60,454
4. West Virginia | Milan Puskar Stadium | 60,000
5. Arizona State | Mountain America Stadium | 53,599
6. Oklahoma State | Boone Pickens Stadium | 52,305
7. Utah | Rice-Eccles Stadium | 51,444
8. Arizona | Arizona Stadium | 50,800
9. Colorado | Folsom Field | 50,183
10. Kansas State | Bill Snyder Family Stadium | 50,000
11. TCU | Amon G. Carter Stadium | 46,000
12. Baylor | McLane Stadium | 45,140
13. UCF | FBC Mortgage Stadium | 44,206
14. Kansas | David Booth Memorial Stadium | Low 40,000s (Opening in Fall 2025)
15. Houston | TDECU Stadium | 40,000
16. Cincinnati | Carson Field at Historic Nippert Stadium | 38,007
BYU sometimes goes over 100% capacity (the K-State game had over 64k), as does West Virginia. The Penn State-WVU season opener had over 62k.
But the point still stands that 61,300 or whatever would still be a very well attended game by conference standards, and would easily be in the Top 10 of all Big 12 games this season unless we knocked it off the list with a few 61,500s still to come.
The hillsides weren't counted toward "official" capacity then -- only the physical seats were -- so it's a lot tougher to pin down.
But yet, you are saying that losing to 2 G5 teams affected ticket sales, but it didnt affect you buying tickets?
It love going to games at Jack Trice. If you prefer watching from home that is fine, but I don’t agree that it has to cost a fortune to go to games. There are some very affordable options.
I am completely befuddled why this is so controversial. Losing to Ohio and the bowl performance had no impact? Okay I guess.
That’s laughable
Would we have more season ticket sales if we won 9 or 10 games last year…which also likely means we’re starting the year ranked with a lot of preseason hype?
And which games would be most logical to change in order to get to that win total?
It’s very reasonable to expect we would have better sales in that scenario, and even if that’s 5% to 10% more in sales, that’s the difference in this game already being sold out
The subject is the reason why season ticket sales are down. I said I agree with what CW laid out and that also losing those two games didn’t help. I really don’t know what else to tell you.
Both can be true
The sales for this game isn’t really off from normal recent behavior.
There may be some disappointment in that because the team is ranked and 4-0 for the first time in decades, but ticket sales aren’t necessarily that responsive. Arguably better performance last year, and the corresponding offseason hype, would do as much to sell out the game as being 4-0 (which mostly amounts to beating Iowa as the difference)
Exactly. CW wasn’t citing ticket sales for this game only. He was pointing out inflation, NIL, and fans being asked to foot the bill for everything, all while ticket prices, parking, etc keep going up are all factors affecting season ticket sales . I just added losing to two G5 teams didn’t help while going 7-6. Apparently a lot of posters think losing to NDak and Arkie St wouldn’t matter.
The economy is not magically better in Eastern Iowa, and as much as I hate to say it, EIU had no trouble selling out every game this season. Sure they had the ISU game, they also have Nebraska, Wisconsin and Washington at home, so its a little better, but its not like they are getting Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State at home either.
The difference is they have had success on the field over the past 20 years while we have struggled, its not the economy, its the team and their record.
Go on a decade winning 9/10 games year after year, getting to better bowls and winning them, the fan base will increase. Until we do that, we are going to struggle selling out games. We are also hampered by the fact that Baylor, TT, Cincy are going to bring less than a 1,000 people to the game. While Nebraska, Wisconsin and ISU purchased every ticket their school got and those that did not purchase through their school got them in the secondary market.
Winning brings fans, that therefore fill up the stadium, 6 and 7 win seasons, get the hard core fans, but not many others. Win and we will be fine, just have to win more.
The difference is they have had success on the field over the past 20 years while we have struggled, its not the economy, its the team and their record.
Go on a decade winning 9/10 games year after year, getting to better bowls and winning them, the fan base will increase. Until we do that, we are going to struggle selling out games. We are also hampered by the fact that Baylor, TT, Cincy are going to bring less than a 1,000 people to the game. While Nebraska, Wisconsin and ISU purchased every ticket their school got and those that did not purchase through their school got them in the secondary market.
Winning brings fans, that therefore fill up the stadium, 6 and 7 win seasons, get the hard core fans, but not many others. Win and we will be fine, just have to win more.
That would matter, but two losses last season have minimal effect. I think the biggest factor is the TV time outs are so excessive. That is obviously nationwide.
Definitely has an effect. It’s been a major talking point this season. I still think two bad losses are a bigger factor IMO. But you definitely have a point.
The bandwagon tavern hawk fans decided to attend football games instead of men's basketball games.
What is the difference there, ISU has been successful for years through multiple coaching changes, while EIU has struggled during that time.
Winning brings fans, and gets them to buy in, while losing doesn't. Their woman have sold out the last couple of seasons and have sold out this year. Why they win, even though they are replacing a majority of the team.
