The real question is if they fire him will the new coach get back all of next year's time outs that Drew already used?
Will Scott Drew be back next year?
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CycloneErik
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This raises another question. When Scott Drew sits down on the sideline, do they call his seat the timeout chair?
If they let him go, they would come to regret it. The next coach might do well with Drew's guys (hell, everyone but Drew would do better) but the talent would dry up. And then they are TCU.
I hope so. He gets the talent to be a top 10 team, then he's terrible at coaching them so we basically get an easyish win or two over a "top 10 type" team each season. Hand that guy the Lickliter lifetime contract.
The difference being that they are a BAPTIST University, which plays well to all those sweet Southern Baptist mommas in the South where Drew pulls the vast majority of his recruits.
Agreed. No one does less with more than Drew. He is one of the worst game day coaches in the game. The person that needs to be fired at Baylor is their Strength & Conditioning coach. I have never seen so many scrawny basketball players in my life. Get those boys in a gym and lift some weights for peke's sake!
I'm guessing that if they fired SD, he could send that program back to the abyss with the knowledge of what he's done there. Might ruin the rest of the his career, but would he really have the opportunity to go anywhere else that would pay both him and the players to go there?
I guess if the UK job was open.
I guess if the UK job was open.
As long as he continues to bring in blue chip players, Drew will keep his job. That then that becomes the real question: How long will highly recruited players actually continue to decide to go to Baylor? I'm not sure why you would.
Baylor had a couple great years over the last 4. Eustacy had a couple great years at isu followed by real garbage and he was still loved by many all the way up to his public ousting.
Only McCarney in a somewhat comparable position. All the BBall coaches were post Johnny. Our expectations in BBall have been higher than baylor had and certainly Eustachy morgan &mcd no were near. Larry won, Morgan & McD flopped compared to predecessors. .
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THIS. You can not separate recruting and in game coaching when judging the total package. While he may not be a great "coach", his recruiting is helping to get Baylor farther than any coach outside Calipari could. When you are dealing with a bunch of one and dones or two and dones it isn't easy. You have to get those guys to buy in to the system and buy in quick. Baylor has two elite eights in the last what, five years? If I am Baylor I give the man a contract extension.
Plus, coaches do actually get better over time. Bill Self is a much better coach now than he was 10 years ago. Drew still stinks at in-game coaching but at least he is able to land good recruits to try to get better with. As many have stated, I am OK with him stayi8ng forever. He always gets his teams into the rankings in non-con so it looks good when Kansas beats them.
Is this a serious question? Drew was handed the doormat of the Big 12 (even before a player murdered his teammate) and within a few years had the program outperforming many of college basketball's blue blood elites.
You can't separate coaching and recruiting, and Drew is arguably the best recruiter in the game. His tactics might rankle other coaches and border on unethical, but nobody can argue with the results. He's not going anywhere.
You can't separate coaching and recruiting, and Drew is arguably the best recruiter in the game. His tactics might rankle other coaches and border on unethical, but nobody can argue with the results. He's not going anywhere.
Not saying that I wouldn't love to go to the Elite Eight under similar circumstances, but both times they went to the Elite Eight, they didn't even beat one single-digit seed to get there.
In 2010 - they beat #14 Sam Houston State, #11 Old Dominion, #10 St. Mary's, before losing to #1 Duke
In 2012 - they beat #14 South Dakota State, #11 Colorado, #10 Xavier, before losing to #1 Kentucky
They were the #3 seed both times, and they avoided the #6 and either #2/#7 seeds both times.
I thought this year that they had maybe turned the corner, beating Kentucky and playing Syracuse close. But they are back to being Baylor again (1-5 in conference so far). They are wildly inconsistent.
Having said all of that, Fred owns Scott Drew, so in my opinion, he can stay there as long as he wants. They are really going to take a step back next year in my opinion. They lose Austin (I'm assuming), Jefferson, Heslip, and Franklin, and IMO their recruiting is really starting to drop off from what they've been used to. If they're underachieving with their current talent, I don't see how they get any better with less talent. They could prove me wrong, who knows. We'll see.
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good post. I'll be curious to see where their recruiting is if they go two straight years without making the NCAA tournament.
Scott Drew will be at Baylor as long as he wants, because he some how rakes in talent there that no one else can.
They had at least one 5-star recruit for three straight years.
2009 - Cory Jefferson (4*)
2010 - Perry Jones (5*), Gary Franklin (4*)
2011 - Quincy Miller (5*)
2012 - Isaiah Austin (5*), Rico Gathers (4*)
2013 - Ishmail Wainright (4*), Allerik Freeman (4*)
2014 (so far) - Damiyne Durham (3*), T.J. Maston (3*)
They missed out on all of their top 2014 guys and have only a few 3* guys left that are considering them.
College Basketball Recruiting Schools - ESPN
Of those 5-star recruits, Perry Jones went 28th overall, Quincy Miller went 38th overall, and Isaiah Austin is currently projected 46th by NBADraft.net. Cory Jefferson also projected 42nd overall. The only lottery pick they've had was Ekpe Udoh at 6th overall in 2010, who transferred from Michigan and played 1 season at Baylor.
It just seems like maybe they aren't very good at developing talent.
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